In this call between Shawn McCraney and Kim, Kim expresses gratitude for the opportunity to engage with Shawn and his daughter Delaney, appreciating their insightful interviews and discussions on religious topics. Kim shares a humorous family anecdote about adopting a daughter and values Shawn’s fatherly role. They discuss a new show, “The Promised Land,” and its potential biblical insights. Kim shares her journey of studying the Bible, particularly Hebrews and Revelation, and seeks Shawn’s clarification on prophetic roles after Christ’s era. Shawn explains his views on the overlap between the Old and New Testaments and the role of prophets, emphasizing the transition from the former age. They discuss Matthew 16:19 and the significance of the “keys of the kingdom” in opening the gospel to Jews and Gentiles. Kim expresses admiration for Shawn’s teachings and how they have helped her understand challenging biblical concepts. They delve into Revelation and Shawn’s interpretations of specific verses, with Shawn encouraging Kim’s deep study. The conversation shifts to contemporary issues in religious communities, notably the Michael Wilder story and its impact on former Mormons. Shawn discusses the importance of true faith in Christ to overcome challenges faced when leaving Mormonism. Kim mentions a friend struggling with religious doctrine and how Shawn’s teachings have brought comfort. Shawn expresses pride in Kim’s ministry and her efforts to help others. The call concludes with Kim considering sharing Shawn’s “Eternal Punishment Papers” with someone in need of reassurance.