The Old Guard View vs. Actual Wonder View

Established by men who impute their views into the text and use the contents to justify what THEY want it to say based on tradition, on bad eschatologyStudy of “last things”—TGNN teaches all biblical eschatology was fulfilled in 70 A.D. More all the while ignoring time, place, audience, authors, and cultural, historical and literary context.

The Actual Wonder View Missed Because of Man and His Traditions

Understood through a lens that admits that the Bible is a record written to an ancient people that describes how God reconciled the world to Himself through a chosen or elected Nation, the Children of Israel and their Messiah THEN. That it is true… That the Bible contains the Word of God. That the Bible is not a manual but a spiritual map for every individual. That the contents may be applicable today, or may not, but MUST always be seen as having material application to that people in that day and as having spiritual application to us now.

Challenging Old School Unreasonableness

Reality
The heavens and earth were created in six actual 24 hour periods. Could be. Could not be. Is representational and who the heck cares! The earth is no more than 6–10,000 years old. Could be. Could not be. Not an issue. Dr. Mary Schweitzer. Page 119-121. Humans inherit Adam’s Original SinMissing the mark of faith and love—no punishment, just lost growth or peace. at birth. Our ability to sin, yes. Adams specific sin, we never read this. There was a world-wide flood and Noah put all species on the ark from all over the world. Probably not. Geographical flood and animals from that area. Could be wrong. So what.

The Trinity is all over the Old Testament. Not really. Stop pushing it. Not there unless you read it into the text. The theory of Evolution is wrong wrong wrong. Some of the theory is wrong, some of it is not. Let it be. Hyper-literalism is the correct way to read scripture. So dangerous. So unreasonable. So harmful to reasoning minds. Created so much unreliable and demanded conformity in the name of God. We will LOSE our children over this stuff folk because this world is not going to back off and unless they are equipped with a reasonable view to trust in God and his word we will lose them.

The Old Testament provides our political views. Politics and Religion have NOTHING to do with each other. Every word of the Bible is inspired of God. Proverbs 22-23 – proven to have come directly from an Egyptian text. Gog mentioned in the Bible is Russia. The logic behind this jump is so ridiculous it’s embarrassing. That the Gospels record Jesus words to us. The Words of Jesus in the Gospels was to those people in that day sometimes BUT it was MOSTLY to His Twelve Apostles as He trained them. Yes, they certainly are.

That what is described as hell is the destination for all non-Christians. That hell is literal flames burning people up forever. Over, done and explained as to why in the Bible. Let’s put this stuff behind us now. That God elects some to be saved and most to that hell. More insidious man-made baloney. There is an application of this in the record but the application is not to all people. That God can do anything anytime all the time. Not true. He is not sovereign in the sense of a sovereign king doing whatever. Scripture says that God cannot lie, God cannot be tempted nor can He tempt. Get over this language. He is good and because He is good there is evil in the world.

That Jesus and the Holy Spirit are eternal persons who have always hung out with the Father from the beginning and the three persons make one God. All of that are the ideas of Man. Scripture plainly says there is one God and that he is the FATHER. Over and over again. Was Jesus God in the flesh. Yes. Is the Holy Spirit God – yes. But let’s drop this three headed God making up the One God stuff.

That Jesus has not come back as promised but is still going to come back. So off, so wrong – and this is much of the basis for all the craziness in American Evangelicalism today. Fix eschatology and you fix most of the problems with today's Christianity. That a person must believe for Jesus work to have it apply to them. Jesus did the work and it served to reconcile the fallen world to His Father. Period. The rewards for believing and receiving Him by faith are another thing but He has redeemed already.

The Gospel and the Return of Christ

The world of Sin. Now the only thing that remains is the individual's refusal to believe and love. That the Gospel MUST go out to the whole world before Jesus can come back. The Gospel went to the whole world in Paul’s day, folks. That age and period was completed. Paul said:

That this world is so evil we know the time is at hand. The world has always been evil. And we will reap what we sow as a human race. No problem. But He came back and took his bride when He said He would. Get over it and start living and loving.

The Primacy of the Bible and the Spirit

That the Bible is primary in the Christian walk. Sola Sola Sola (Tora! Tora! Tora!) The Spirit is primary, the Bible is a referential source that serves.

Focus of Faith

That sins of the flesh are a focus of the faith. Homosexuality, porn, adultery and all the rest. Blah blah blah. The focus is Jesus came and saved us while in all of this and we are told to look to Him and His finished work. Now, if Jesus has NOT come and taken His church (for the past 2000 years) then we SHOULD be keeping the church holy and pure and ready to be taken (as all of the Apostolic Record suggests). We should also be under strict apostolic rule, and should be following the record to a T. But we don’t do we? Such religious hypocrisy. But if Jesus has done it all, we are free. Not to focus on the failures of the flesh, but to walk liberated in the fact that He saved us.

That the Church is Jesus Bride. The church has been taken. That church did NOT have the gates of hell prevail against it. What continued on from 70 AD has had nothing BUT the gates of hell prevailing against it. We are now composing His body. He took His bride. And as the head of the Body, he knows who is in it and who is not. So put your freaking church playing in the firepit and live free in faith and love.

The early church fathers were deluded from the start. They had great truth – the Gospel – but the corruption started really early and Jesus body has no corruption, folks. Men and their traditions over the past 2000 years are laughable in contrast to the Great NewsThe message that prophecy is fulfilled and we are free to pursue God in love and liberty—without fear or religious control. Christians SHOULD be bearing about to their family and friends.

The Role of Early Church Fathers

Give example of Early Church father heresies.

Relax in His finished work. Look to Him and live to love. Your sin is not you, its your flesh. You are His – cleansed by the Blood. Don’t condemn anyone. Never let dogma bite your non-Christian neighbor – Jesus's blood reconciled them! So love them where they are and let God work.

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