How and Who Yeshua?

Is Yeshua God the father?

No. He is the Word of God made flesh.^[1]

Was Yeshua a person in a premortal existence?

Not a person – He was the Word (or Words/logos) of God before the world was and by which God created all things.^[2]

Was Yeshua God before the world was?

He was God’s Words not God the Father Himself. There was no “Yeshua person” (little Son) before the world was and there was, is and always will only be one God.^[3] Yeshua was certainly God but not as a man but as very God.

Why would Yeshua say “that before Abraham was, I Am.”

Because before Abraham was, God was. Yeshua was “God with us.” But He was the Word of God with us. Being such, He “was” before Abraham was. He was in fact from the beginning.^[4]

Did the Words of God have a form? Were they a person?

No. But they are as much God as God Himself. His Words are His, therefore they are Him – of Him, from Him. When God “speaks” His words are living. They never pass away. The Word was God. God’s words are living. They create, give life, cause things to happen – and they never go away – they never end. They are eternal. These are what “became flesh and dwelled among us.^[5] We might even go so far as to see God as perfect masculine and perfect feminine with the Old Testament expression being far more masculine and the apostolic record expression being far more feminine.

How was God with us?

By the Holy Spirit of God overshadowing the virgin Mary and her conceiving the human child Yeshua.^[6]

Paul calls Yeshua the Last Adam. ^[7] Was Yeshua then created the way Adam was created – that God formed Him out of the clay (through Mary) and breathed into Him His breath, and Yeshua became a living soul?

No. This would make Yeshua fully and only human. He was much, much more. Adam’s body was formed first of the clay, God then breathed into him, and from this quickening breath Adam became a living soul (having his own mind, will and emotion).^[8] Yeshua was different. The Holy Spirit (which is the power of God) was the sperma that engaged with the egg of Mary and Yeshua was conceived. That “sperma of spirit” contained, as it were, “the fullness of God,” and this was in the very DNA of Yeshua. Adam was merely quicken by the breath of life given Him by God – Adam was animated by God’s breath. Yeshua was created by the Spirit Seed of God, making His very genetic make-up an admixture of God and human being. Evangelicals insist on saying that Yeshua was fully man and fully God but there are problems with this as no part of God is man and no part of Man is God. They are mutually exclusive meaning there is no other human being alive whose Father is God. So it is a stretch to call Him fully man (again, since no man on earth has ever had the spiritual genetics of God). This being said I would tend to describe Yeshua, instead of being fully man and fully God as a person who was in His mortal life less than God and less than Man,^[9] as one who descended below all things. When I say less than I would suggest that at conception, because of being a creation from the Sperma of the Spirit and the Novum of the Flesh, that the flesh lessened His deity and the spirit lessoned his humanity (being that humans are naturally more evil not having the Sperma of the Spirit). That the fullness of the Godhead dwelled in Him does not counter this opinion in the least. When the fullness of purity is woven together with threads of carnality the result is not improvement or containment of purity but a legitimizing of such. And if something fallen and evil is met and matched with something glorious it becomes less fallen and evil and therefore NOT more human but less.

So in this state did Yeshua both overcome the human flesh (by the Spirit) and somehow prove His Sonship by refusing to let His flesh reign?

Yes. Equipped at birth “to be a Son” he “learned obedience by the things He suffered.” ^[10] His human will called out to him to be willful but he chose to live not by His will but the will of His Father.^[11]

But wouldn’t the presence of His Spiritual DNA give Him an advantage over the rest of the human race in overcoming His flesh and living perfectly?

Of course it did! There’s not a human on earth whose Father was God who bestowed upon them a genetic make-up from above! We are not in competition with Yeshua. He did not set an example that could ever be achieved by anyone else. This is not the point of His existence – to set an example that can be reached or achieved by others. As followers we of course we look to Him and how He lived but to match his example is an impossibility for all have sin and fallen short of the glory of God.^[12] Because of this, and because God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son (the only Human Son He would ever have) to come into the world^[13] – and to save us.

Does only begotten mean Yeshua was begotten?

It does. Yeshua of Nazareth was God the Father’s only human (begotten) son.

When was Yeshua begotten?

Yeshua of Nazareth was begotten a few times over the course of His human life. He was fully begotten in the flesh when He was born of Mary and He was fully begotten of God in the Spirit at His resurrection.^[14]

So was Yeshua God?

God is God. Yeshua of Nazareth was a human being whose father was God and in whom God dwelled. No other human being was born with God as their Father. This makes Yeshua the single most unique human being as He originated from both heaven and from earth. As stated, from heaven came the Word (or heart) of God to germinate with the egg of flesh. His mortal existence was a period of time where the Spirit within Him perfectly overcame the flesh He inhabited and Yeshua of Nazareth was crowned Lord and Savior of all Humankind. In this we can say that “God with us” had victory over the fallen flesh of this world.

Think of it this way. Suppose that there is a pack of wild dogs created by an invisible spirit of fire.^[15] This fire-spirit looks down on the pack and barks down to them orders on how to be. It doesn’t work. They are rebellious. He sends other dogs into the pack but they don’t listen or follow these either. The fire spirit loves this pack so much He creates a dog that is made of both dog and bears 100% of Him. This dog barks, and chases his tail, and loves rotten food, but this dog is different than the rest of the pack because this creature, while a dog, has God as His father and not another dog. That this dog came forth from another dog is obvious. And it (the animal) did not exist as a dog before its birth in heaven with the fire spirit. It existed prior to its conception and creation as the expressions of the fire-spirit. When conceived and born it was begotten, becoming less (than it was as the expressions of the fire-spirit) and also less than a full dog (because no dog has ever had the fire-spirit as a Father). Then with its unusual DNA, this dog taught and leads the wild pack. And after they reject and kill it, it comes back to life and the reigns as the God of the Dogs – because it was God with them in the first place, that overcame being a wild dog.

So is Yeshua of Nazareth, the man part, now fully God?

Yes. When He walked the earth he had condescended below all things.^[16] When He submitted His flesh to the will of His Father He was learning obedience by the things He suffered. When He died (and was dead – God does not die) He was dragging with him a body that came from the earth and was earthly. But having overcome sin, and death, and the grave, on behalf of humanity, God, through Yeshua of Nazareth, saved the world and his human body transformed and became qualified to reside in the presence of His Father. And the Man Yeshua,^[17] once experiencing all that we experience, by and through God in Him, inherited all that the Father had – all of it.^[18] This means all glory, all kingdoms, all power, all authority, all rights, all of it God created for His Son by His Word (which became His Son). This caused Yeshua to introduce Himself (post resurrection) to John the Beloved as the first and the last, the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega.^[19] He was God that dwelled among us. Now, as that Man of Mediation, He is God in all that this entails. God Himself created Him to be such.

So are you suggesting that there are two God’s – the Father and the Son.

Let’s actually quote one passage here from 1^st Corinthians 8:6 which says:

“But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Yeshua Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.”

The one God is God the Father. Of Him we have the Lord and Savior, Yeshua Christ, by whom we human beings now have access to God.

Who do we worship?

We worship the One God who is fully manifested in our Lord and Savior Yeshua Christ. Fully presented. Fully pictured. In fact, we relate to the invisible God by and through the Lord and Savior Yeshua Christ whereas before there was an impasse and a gulf. Worshipping Christ IS worshipping God. There is not one bit of difference. Praying to Christ is praying to God. There is not one whit of difference. He is the Alpha and Omega. There are not two. There is only the man Yeshua mediating between the invisible God in heaven and physical Man on earth.

Will there ever be a time when Yeshua and His role as mediator between God and Man will end?

Yes. Yeshua of Nazareth functions in a role. His purpose was to reconcile Man to God and God to Man. His purpose was to reign over this world and its inhabitants until He has had the victory over all things.^[20] This intermediary work was by nature temporary for once the victory has been had God would have won and the intermediary work of Yeshua would be unnecessary, for God would be over all things, and the Man, Yeshua of Nazareth, would step from the right hand of the father, and bestow upon Him the reconciled world.^[21]

Has this happened?

It has. But before thinking there is no need to know Yeshua we must remember that He, Yeshua, is the way, the truth, and the life. That there is no way to the father but by Him. That by grace we are saved through faith on Him. All people must first come to Him – to knowing Him, and growing by and through faith on and in Him as Lord and Savior.

However, it is important to realize that Yeshua fulfilled a role in the workings of God reconciling the world to Himself. His role is not eternal in the sense that man forever remains focused on the fundamentals of the faith in their walk with God. Scripture directs us to move on toward perfection.^[22] Scripture also plainly explains that when that role is over, when Yeshua has had the victory, He would turn everything over to God the Father “that God may be all in all.” Speaking about resurrection, Paul says:

“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.”^[23]

So, in addition to God clothing His word in flesh to experience all things as a means to overcome them on behalf of the Human race, and to reveal the invisible God along the way, showing us how to live and react through how He lived and reacted, and in addition to offering up His life, overcoming the Law, shedding His blood, dying, and being raised to New life, did Yeshua and his life have any other purpose not mentioned here?

He did. After becoming the author and finisher of our faith,^[24] Yeshua – the first fruits of the grave^[25] – established the means and the way for all people to become a joint heir with Him in all that the Father has.^[26] He paved the way for all people (through faith and love, His commandments^[27]) to go from being natural creatures of God, to becoming children, and to then having the power to become sons and daughters of God.^[28] This is all accomplished by and through the Spirit overcoming the flesh^[29] through faith on our only Lord, Savior and King, Yeshua the Christ.

1. John 1:1 ?
2. Genesis 1:3; Colossians 1:16 ?
3. Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 9:6 ?
4. John 5:58; Matthew 1:23 ?
5. John 1:14 ?
6. Luke 1:35 ?
7. 1^st Corinthians 15:45 ?
8. Genesis 2:7 ?
9. Hebrews 2:9 ?
10. Hebrews 5:8 ?
11. Matthew 26:42 ?
12. Romans 3:23 ?
13. John 3:16 ?
14. Matthew 1:20; Acts 13:33 ?
15. Hebrews 12:29 ?
16. Philippians 2:7-9 ?
17. Acts 2:22; Romans 5:15; 1^st Timothy 2:5; ?
18. Colossians 1:12-20 ?
19. Revelation 1:14-18 ?
20. Hebrews 1:13 (note “until” here) ?
21. 1^st Corinthians 15:22-28 ?
22. Hebrews 6:1-3 ?
23. 1^st Corinthians 15:22-28 ?
24. Hebrews 12:2 ?
25. 1^st Corinthians 15:20 ?
26. Romans 8:17 ?
27. 1^st John 3:22-23 ?
28. John 1:12-14 ?
29. Romans 8; Galatians 3:3; Galatians 5; 1^st Peter 4:6 ?