Making the World a Better Place

Live from Salt Lake City, Utah This is Heart of the MatterTGNN’s original show where Shawn McCraney deconstructed religion and developed fulfilled theology. 2.0 And I am your host, Shawn McCraneyFounder of TGNN and developer of the fulfilled perspective—calling people to faith outside of religion.. SO, SO, SO much to talk about tonight – because so much has occurred since we last had a live show – so buckle up – it’s gonna be some straight up talk – something I was recently reminded is not fully appreciated in our present world – but something from which we cannot shy away. But first things first –

A PRAYER – we need it.

Okay, let’s work backwards. And our topics tonight are really difficult to navigate as they all have to do with making our world a better place – and how to actually go about doing it. Remember this overall view.

Last week I had Dan Ellis an Atheist on the show and I thought the exchanges in the least opened up a dialogue – where we both learned – making the world a better place between at least two men with very different world views – one an Atheist (Dan) and the other a sold out believer in God and His Son Jesus Christ.

I’ve received calls, texts, and some emails on the interview. And we all have our respective views, right? But one email suggests a perspective I think is worthwhile to consider in light of our overall topic – making this world a better place. It’s from B, a 20 year police veteran who took exception to Dan suggesting that if God exists, he is a monster.

A Perspective from Law Enforcement

It says, in part: Good day, I want to take a moment to address one of Dan's positions as to "why would God allow a young child to be raped repeatedly and not do anything about it?" I agree with 98% of what Dan said regarding religion and so on. The two percent I disagree with is #1, that God does not exist and #2 that God is a monster.

I have been in law enforcement for close to 20 years and have seen, heard, smelled atrocities that I wish nobody else has to see, hear, smell. When Dan asked this question and blamed God for not intervening, I do understand and mean no disrespect, so please don't take it that way, but you Dan, are a Monday Morning Quarterback.

First, you ask the question,

"Why would God allow a young child to be raped repeatedly and not do anything about it?" But sir, you have no clue what God does about it. You sit back and hear the stories about such atrocities and you burn with anger about the story. Perhaps I am assuming, maybe you are out there fighting evil on a daily basis. Perhaps you have in the past. Perhaps you have done nothing.

But we sir, first responders, don't just hear about it, we see it, smell it, and live it. If you care so much about the atrocities, then do something about it.

Who are you to say that God does nothing about it? Are you out there daily seeing what God does about it? Every day, I see God intervening. Every day, God sends people like us to intervene. God sends people like us to stop the dad who anally raped his 10 year old daughter with cancer. Did God send me to prevent it? In this case no, but God sent me to stop it. It's stopped, at least for the next 30 years according to the sentence.

I truly wonder, how many horrible things first responders stop and prevent. It's an answer we will never know perhaps. I've often wondered that if I get the opportunity to meet God, will he let me know how much pain and evil we as first responders have prevented? Maybe we stopped a rape, maybe we stopped a murder, maybe we stopped a suicide, maybe we stopped torture. Who knows? That is an answer that is currently unknown.

A Personal Reflection

Then B makes his point clear, saying:

“I personally do not enjoy most Christian music, however, one song I do agree with. It’s called "Do something". In the song, the artist talks about shaking his fist at God saying "God why don't you do something?" The song continues and God responds, "I did, I made you". This perfectly explains Christianity.

To say that God does not stop atrocities is fallible. God made men and women like me. People who daily stop atrocities.

I've had people tell me personally, "If you would not have shown up when you did then this and this would have happened". Stories such as these

God's Role in Human Intervention

Coincidence? Too many for me personally to call a coincidence. Sir, God does do something about it every single second of every single day around the world via soldiers, police, firemen, and good Samaritans. Do bad things still happen? Yes. Will they ever stop? No. If God intervened in every single circumstance, then we would all be puppets. What kind of God would that be?

Why does God intervene before the bad thing happens with some people? I don't know. Why does God intervene after the atrocity occurred? I don't know. But I can say God does intervene countless times every second around the world. I have been there to see it. I have been there to experience it, countless times.

You don't have the gnostic wisdom to say that terrible things aren't stopped. That is a false statement. Do they happen? Yes. But many, many times, terrible things are stopped or prevented through miraculous ways.

A Glass Half Full Perspective

Then B Summarizes:

Bottom line, I believe sir you are viewing God as the glass half empty. You absolutely have the right to ask the question about why terrible things happen to the innocent. I still wonder that many times. I fight for the innocent every day. I despise those who prey against the innocent. However, stop and think for a moment about how many terrible things are stopped by those who are willing to do something about it.

Love the beard, love the sense of humor. Let's get a beer sometime. No hard feelings.

Sincerely, B

1. God’s way of doing something about atrocity occurs by those living in this realm. To me, this is evidenced by God becoming flesh to save us as a man with us, right?
2. In this way God is, in fact, intervening.

The Complexity of Intervention and Freedom

Now . . . to make our topic really complex, our next situation is an example of what APPEARS to be people trying to make this world a better place. It APPEARS to be good people getting involved to make the world a better place – but I hate it – and I think both Dan Ellis and our police officer will hate it too.

And so we are going to be left with the question: Where do we draw a line in doing the work of God to protect the innocent but when do we trample on the rights and thoughts of individuals and their freedoms to choose?

The topic I am talking now is last week the LDS church sent out an actual email to their members – I have a copy of it before me, and this is what it says in bold:

(READ FROM ATTACHED LETTER THEN COME BACK HERE)

The Role of Religion in Legislation

So, is this a case of good Samaritans stepping in and stopping evil, like B mentioned?

Or is this what Dan the Atheist mentioned hating about RELIGION – when they use their power and pull to legislate morality – like the LDS church did with Prop 8 in California?

Before I add my two cents I want you to understand my personal views on marijuana. I personally hate it and I hate what it can do to some people. For instance in the McCraney family writ large and small, I have seen simple pot use destroy people's lives and the lives of their children. This is not hyperbole. McCraney’s don’t do well with most substances – even when used for pain management.

But while I personally hate pot, I hate religions like the Mormons coming in and trying to take political control over things. So much so that I see their actions are far more sinister and evil than indiscriminant pot use.

Herein lies the balance between self-regulation of individuals and their families and totalitarian regimes – the latter being evil and the former imperfect.

Bottom line, when the Mormon church steps in under the auspices of making the world a better place and tells their members how to vote we are witnessing despotism around – and they justify such actions by labeling this a moral issue rather than a political one.

Two weeks ago I had a man and his wife and baby come to me with a story. They had left the Mormon church over it. He was in the military and was badly injured. As a result of the pain he was in the medical

The Complexity of Institutional Influence and Personal Agency

Doctors prescribed opiates – which he got addicted to. His life turned to crap. In time he pulled himself up (which many people can’t do) and discovered he could alleviate both his pain and addiction to opioids through a mixture of pot and kratom, a natural pain killer less addictive than pharmaceuticals. In a temple recommend interview with their LDS bishop he revealed this course of action he responsibly took upon himself. He was chided, and told he must immediately cease the pot. He asked if they would rather have him addicted to opioids and the reply was “whatever is legal.” He kicked back. They took his temple recommend. He went to the LDS Stake President and was told that if he didn’t stop using pot immediately the Church would report him and his wife to the Child Protective Services for child endangerment. This is a true story from the Wasatch front folks.

Individual Acts of Good Versus Institutional Control

What is the difference between improving the world through 1st responders and good Samaritans and institutional political manipulation. The first is an example of good people individually choosing to freely give their lives to help others. This is Christianity or an expression of it. The second is sinister manipulation built on compulsion, and often – self-serving corporate agendas.

It was one thing for the people of German to decide to refuse to support burlesque shows in their communities. It was an entirely different matter when the Third Reich came in and mandatorily shut them down. One act is based in freedom, the other in despotism. The LDS/Mormon leadership has their collective heads stuffed so far up their own world-views I really think they are on God’s errand, when the fact of the matter their darkness is only made more apparent with each and every communication shared.

The Impact of Public Protests

The next rant is really hard to present without being misunderstood – but that has never stopped us before. The older I get the more I resent “empty actions, hollow causes, and marches as a means to just do SOMETHING because nothing else is being done. Where marches and protests worked in the 60’s I do not believe our present world can or will respond to them with the same effectiveness – in part because there are so many of them.

Here is the thing many people miss when it comes to “causes” the evil empires being attacked often BENEFIT more from protests than they are harmed because when an evil empire makes an improvement on their practices and policies, the response from many is usually, “HOO-RAY!” and for some if not most, the evil institution is seen as being progressive and improving (and therefore, perhaps worth a second look).

Again why? Because when something in an evil empire has improved that does not destroy it, the evil empire ultimately benefits.

A Lingering Issue

As an example let’s say there is a hard-core pornography company that has had a long-standing history of mistreating its female porn stars (something not unheard of back in the day or even today as the industry is an affront to females in general). And let’s say that today ten thousand people stand up and protest against its practice of mistreating women porn stars. And the such and such hardcore porn industry makes a stance and puts an end to the direct mistreatments. They even come out and apologize, and donate large amounts of money to battered women’s shelters. This will cause the ten thousand protesters to shout, HOORAY! Right!? Hard-core porn doesn’t beat its women anymore!” But the reality is the evil empire still exists and the evil they do has really only slightly changed because women are still being objectified and people’s minds are still being warped by their product.

This is the problem with hacking at the branches of an evil empire and not striking at the root. Another aspect to making the world a better place. When we look at the LDS church, there was a time when it did not allow black men to have their priesthood. Then comes the 1978 decision to give “all worthy males the priesthood” and suddenly people all over the place are shouting, “glory be! The blacks can have our priesthood!” And Mormonism appears progressive and improving – even good. Not . . . good. Not at all. I mean the reality is the revelation is celebrating black men becoming eligible to receive a priesthood that is false in the first place! Where’s the victory in that? That black men can now delude themselves?

Hacking at the Truth of an Empire

themselves into thinking that they hold a false priesthood and are worthy to do it? And what about women? And what about the false premise of worthiness? And taking a priesthood that belongs only to Jesus according to Hebrews?

And in the end (LISTEN) there is no victory at all EXCEPT for . . . the Mormon Church, which appears to have become progressive in the eyes of millions while reassuring their faithful that God is leading them.

This is exactly why hacking at the truth of an empire is far more important than making progress by pruning their branches. Now, if you are a person that is all about improving earthly conditions through progressive acts then blacks getting a false priesthood will be exciting to you. But that is really a short-lived victory when the spoils of it will be shared by the institution itself. I suggest that we all stop hacking at the branches of evil trees and spend all our time and resources chopping out the roots.

Understanding the Importance of Striking the Root

It was my reading Walden decades ago that helped me understand this as Henry David Thoreau says: “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root, and it may be that he who bestows the largest amount of time and money on the needy is doing the most by his mode of life to produce that misery which he strives in vain to relieve.” Unfortunately folks, ours has become a world of “branch-hackers.” It goes hand in hand with failing to live by principles and instead living by emotions.

So we have this “cause celebre” there, and an exciting “mounting movement” there, all contributing to our feeling accomplished. Yes, policy changes help protect people – especially women and children – along the way to the empires destruction. This is good and its why I support people like Sam Young. But I want Sam and his leadership to help squarely strike at the root and put an end to all LDS abuses – and for that to happen the attack needs to be focused and directed to real exposure.

Policy Changes vs. Root-Level Change

I mean, let’s just suppose that Sam has the victory he seeks. I would suggest that some good will be done but the Mormons will participate in that good and will then parlay it to their own benefit – all the while continuing to make kids feel unworthy and adults guilty and not loved by God in some other way. The reality is policy changes really amount to nothing more than snapping a twig off an enormous oak with roots burrowing deep into the lives of millions of trapped people.

Yes, there have been very painful events for many that have occurred because of policies on race, gender, and interviewing children, but what is at the root? Until we start thinking, until we start uniting on clear principles and resisting the short term, we will forever serve to only prune the trees of evil empires, which ultimately benefits them. I know how important these things “seem.” I really do. Who wants a child to be embarrassed or to suffer at the hands of an inept Bishop. But from a strategic long-view approach, Mormonism as it stands today needs to fall from the roots up.

Until then all we are doing is removing one cell of the cancer from a body while allowing the rest to metastasize. I don’t think we are doing our best thinking here, folks. In many ways we are just “reacting”- like monkeys responding to bursting fireworks over-head. “Ooohhhh! Ahhhhhh!”

But once the last skyrocket blows, and the smoke clears, that phallus of a building rising up over the Salt Lake Valley will continue to stand erect, and LDS children, teens, and adults – regardless of this policy change or that, will continue to be harmed – somehow. Call me radical, but I’m right.

So what is the difference between seeking policy change from a religious empire and the work of someone like, Kristy Johnson who we interviewed several weeks back? Kristy is legally pursuing the Empire for its practice, she is not endorsing the good that Mormonism does nor is she calling it her church, but she is ripping at the root – Yes, it is a good policy she promotes, that all illegal activities in Mormonism be reported to the police and not their bishops – but at the end of the day her witness indicts the church for its sinister ways while

Observing Pain and Strength

not suggesting that if it changes this particular policy all will be well with the institution.

But I want to address something else relative to my sister Kristy. After we finished airing our three-part interview with her (which were utterly devastating) I want to point something out that I discussed with my daughter Cassidy and later with Kristy herself.

I very rarely re-watch shows that are just me presenting information and on occasion I do re-watch the shows that are interviews. Kristy’s interviews included. Stepping back and trying to watch and hear what she presented without ANY sort of preconceived notion was interesting because when I watched the first two parts – and this will initially sound bad – her presentation, to me, was lacking in believability. Fortunately, she was armed with evidence directly from her Dad – letters, phone calls, and actual video – who admitted to the things she charged him with and I was privy to these admissions before interviewing her.

Kristy's Presentation

So I knew she was telling the truth, but again, standing back and watching her speak I thought that her delivery was not, shall I say, wholly convincing. Yes, her ability to recall facts, dates and situations was certainly important to her credibility, but it was her own personality on the show itself did not serve to convince me personally. I had to ask myself as I re-watched our interviews together:

Why isn’t Kristy 100% believable in her presentation to me? And after some real soul searching I had a conversation with my middle daughter Cassidy and she agreed – Kristy was not overly selling her story through emotion – something perhaps I want to see. Instead she pragmatically and matter-of-factly recited the facts – and this was not enough for us – we wanted more. And we realized that the fact that we did not find Kristy’s presentation completely believable was our problem – not hers.

See, as observers of “another person’s pain” we (the observers) often want to see the pain, and the emotion – through tears and anger – to help convince us that their story is legit. In Kristy’s case (and I knew this about her as an individual growing up) and outside the story of her Dad, she appears to be a VERY strong and accomplished person – like a good pioneer woman – someone who can put forward a direct, stiff upper lip account of facts that gets the job done.

Coping Mechanisms

Once we realized this, we couldn’t help but wonder if this is how many survivors of sexual and physical and psychological abuse survive in day to day adult life – they put on the face that’s fully necessary to get through talking about the crimes and in managing public life . . . but then we realized that behind the scenes, in the quiet moments of existence, the darkness must come. When we think about it, to relive the pain and experience over and over again in interviews and everyday life would destroy a person emotionally.

So, I think being as tough a person as Kristy is, this coping mechanism came through loud and clear as she presented the FACTS (not the emotions) of her story to us. But when we realized that behind closed doors, and in the daily machinations of daily life, in potential romance, and inter-personal relationships, Kristy probably suffered and continues to suffer . . . in silence. As time has passed since the interview Kristy and I have talked on occasion and the reality of this came forth in living color between us.

Understanding and Support

So where we who have never suffered such abuse get to watch her story and feel for her, we are also able to let it all go and move on with life in relatively adjusted ways while she remains with some, most or all of the burden on her back. I have learned that her moments of darkness are deep and real, and have prevented her from gainful employment, lasting romantic relationships, and financial stability. I am NOT about making excuses for people – but I am all about being realistic in the face of facts.

And the facts are Kristy is in trouble and needs our help. I got a phone call last week from her dear friend, another woman in the news (McKenna Denson) who was raped in the MTC by a leader in the LDS church and is fighting for her own survival, and she asked if I would be involved in getting a Go FUND me account going for Kristy.

We

Supporting Kristy Johnson

Set it up and it is there – to help her have a cushion to pursue life and her suit against the LDS church.

I have been approached several times to promote GoFUNDME accounts and have turned them all down. Not this one. And I petition you to consider giving something for the well-being of this brave sister, woman, and friend. The GoFUNDME campaign is called Helping Kristy Johnson Fight. If you can spare some money, donate to her. Please.

Shifts in Mormon Church Practices

The LDS Newspaper, the Deseret News, recently reported that the Mormon Prophet Russ Nelson said: "The Lord has impressed upon my mind the importance of the name He has revealed for His Church, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," President Nelson said in a statement.

He added, "We have work before us to bring ourselves in harmony with His will. In recent weeks, various Church leaders and departments have initiated the necessary steps to do so." A style guide released by the church alongside the statement said, "Please avoid using the abbreviation 'LDS' or the nickname 'Mormon' as substitutes for the name of the Church, as in 'Mormon Church,' 'LDS Church,' or 'Church of the Latter-day Saints.'"

In other words, the Church, using the Lord’s name as the reason for the shift, is trying to alter what Mormonism has used themselves for centuries. I’ve read and heard of all sorts of reasons why for this – and many of them are good. But I want to reiterate one of the ultimate reasons – search engine optimization. This is nothing new. The Mormon Church is constantly trying to shift emphasis on its name and how it is said and spelled. Why?

A moving target is very difficult to hit. So, all the anti-Mormon stuff will get shifted around in SEO as a result of this change as most critical pieces on Mormonism do not use the Church's full name but instead call them Mormons and the LDS for short. With the claim of a single revelation, Mormonism is able to slip away from millions of pages of damaging information. Just more fugly manipulations by a major religious institution to control the flow of information.

Calvary Chapel's New Direction

But let me wrap tonight up with a bit of bright, encouraging news. Over the year I have openly bashed any and every church that preaches tithes to their congregates and takes collections up in their weekly services. I’ve named some churches in this very community that are guilty of it: South Mountain in Draper, K2 in Murray, and Calvary Chapel in Taylorsville/Murray area.

Pastor Terry Long of Calvary Chapel, on his own (and actually returning back to something they did at the start of his doing church here), has stepped forward in the right direction, as far as I’m concerned, and this is what he is telling the congregates of CCSLC: Starting August 12th we are going to stop passing the basket at all our services. Here are some reasons:

A- We teach where God guides HE will provide. Not passing the plate lives out this principle. We are truly trusting in God.

B- The Bible says: Matthew 6:3–4 -But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly.

C- The ushers responsible and time will shift from offering, to being available for all newcomers, loving on the church, and ready to pray for all that need it.

D- We want the service to have as little distractions as possible, so people can hear the Bible being taught. Someone new to the faith or someone that is searching may not understand the reason for the offering. The enemy has done very well in making people think that the church is all about the money.

E- We need to be clear in our teaching and instruction that giving is a form of worship to God, with all that we have and are. There are many ways to give, offering boxes, internet, iPhone, etc. We will make sure everyone knows how to financially give to Calvary.

The bottom line is that we want people to know JESUS. It is all about HIM. We will teach about giving and leave the rest to God.

I am so impressed with this courageous choice by Pastor Terry. In fact, if you attend a church that petitions you for money from the pulpit when you are sitting there to worship God, a church that passes the plate.

Call to Support Calvary Chapel Salt Lake City

or pushes you to support them, switch freaking churches and go to CALVARY CHAPEL SALT LAKE CITY as its pastor has show true leadership and taken a grand step in the right direction. You see, folks, Pastors teach and tell their audience to “trust in the Lord with all of their heart BUT don’t do this themselves,” through the collections they do week in and out. Terry is living as He preaches.

So I not only applaud his courage and leadership but encourage anyone who attends CCSLC to give as you are lead, and those who are attending other places that hit them up for money to change to CALVARY CHAPEL SALT LAKE CITY NOW.

In conclusion, you may wonder why I don’t recommend you all come to CAMPUS. We are a small church with no intention of growing and have a very limited approach to children and nothing for teens. Ours is a ministry mostly for individuals wanting to REALLY learn the Bible. So if you have a family GO TO CALVARY CHAPEL, LEARN THE BIBLE (which is another great reason for attending) and walk from these churches that DON’T TEACH THE WORD and that ASK FOR MONEY while you’re are there seeking the Lord.

And with that let’s . . .phone lines? Close?

NEXT WEEK RADIO FROM HELL DJ BILL ALLRED sharing his thoughts on there being nothing after this life – right here on HOTM!

Proposition 2 and Its Implications

Show 42 HOT COMMENTARY of REASON
August 28th 2018

Dear Brothers and Sisters, ??In November, Proposition 2, an initiative which would legalize the sale and use of marijuana, will appear on the ballot. Its proponents assert that it will make medical marijuana available to those suffering with debilitating pain and other infirmities. However, in truth it goes much further, creating a serious threat to health and public safety, especially for our youth and young adults, by making marijuana generally available with few controls. ?

The Church joins a coalition of medical experts, public officials, and community stakeholders in calling for a safe and compassionate approach to providing medical marijuana to those in need. The Church does not object to the medicinal use of marijuana, if doctor prescribed, in dosage form, through a licensed pharmacy. ?

As a member of the coalition, we urge voters of Utah to vote NO on Proposition 2, and join us in a call to state elected officials to promptly work with medical experts, patients, and community leaders to find a solution that will work for all Utahns, without the harmful effects that will come to pass if Proposition 2 becomes law. ?

For more information on Proposition 2 please refer to this legal analysis prepared for the Church by Kirton McConkie. ?

The Stance on Medical Marijuana

Elder Craig C. Christensen?
President, Utah Area

Statement on Proposition 2? Medical Marijuana Initiative

Medical marijuana is an issue that has generated strong emotions and opinions among proponents and opponents alike. On one hand, initiatives to legalize marijuana in other states have led to increased drug use among youth, higher risk of impaired driving, and an increase in hospital emergency room visits, among other significant public health and safety concerns. On the other hand, patients suffering from debilitating pain and other medical conditions have struggled as traditional treatment strategies have failed to provide relief. The marijuana initiative appearing as Proposition 2 on the ballot this November does not strike the appropriate balance in ensuring safe and reasonable access for patients while also protecting youth and preventing other societal harms.?

We are firmly opposed to Proposition 2. However, we do not object to marijuana derivatives being used in medicinal form—so long as appropriate controls and safeguards are in place to ensure vulnerable populations are protected and access is limited to truly medicinal purposes. Moreover, though continued research into the risks and benefits of medical marijuana use remains paramount, current scientific evidence suggests marijuana contains components that may be of benefit to some patients.?

We urge the voters of Utah to vote no on Proposition 2. We also urge lawmakers, patients, and community stakeholders to work together to find a solution that works for all Utahns. The hallmarks of Utah’s unique policy accomplishments in the past have been civility, compassion, and a spirit of compromise, and we are confident an approach guided by these principles will yield similarly effective policies.?

Sincerely,??

Utah Medical Association?
Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
Utah Episcopal Diocese?
Utah Hospital Association?
Utah PTA?
Fraternal Order of Police?
Family Policy Resource?
Utah Narcotics Officers Association?
Islamic Society of Greater Salt Lake?
Latinos in Action?
Utah Sheriff's Association?
Salt Lake City Police Association?
Sutherland Institute?
Utah Hispanic Chamber of Commerce?
Utah Eagle Forum?
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Prominent Figures and Organizations

Anesthesiologists?Family First Foundation?Meridian Magazine?Newquist Group?Citizens for Strong Families?American College of Emergency Physicians, Utah Chapter

Influential Leaders

Wayne Niederhauser—Utah Senate President?Greg Hughes—Speaker of the Utah House?Scott Anderson—President and CEO, Zions Bank?Gail Miller—Owner & Chair of the LHM Group of Companies?Karen Huntsman?Mike Leavitt—Former Governor, Secretary of HHS?David Huntsman, President, Huntsman Foundation?Mitt Romney—Former U.S. Presidential Candidate?

Community and Business Leaders

Jim Jardine—Lawyer, Education Leader?Kem Gardner—Chairman, Gardner Company?Dave Mallinak, Pastor, Berean Baptism Church, Ogden?Steve Starks—President, Utah Jazz, and LHM Sports & Entertainment?Spencer P. Eccles—Former Exec. Dir. Governor's Office of Economic Development?Nathan Frodsham—Patient Advocate?Aimee Winder Newton—Chair Salt Lake County Council?Kim R. Wilson—Attorney?Enedina Stanger—Patient Advocate?Walt Plumb—Developer?Derek Miller—President and CEO, Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce?Todd Moon—Patient Advocate?Rev. Gregory Johnson, President of Standing Together?Carlton Christensen—Former Salt Lake City Council Member?Karen Hale—Former Utah State Senator?Mike Kennedy—MD?Ed Kennedy—President, Truth about Prop. 2?Jennifer Brown, DDS—Dentist

*"There are a significant number of Utah elected officials and others running for office this year, who have signed the statement. We have chosen not to include their names here."