The Topic of Male Sexuality and Spirituality

From the Mecca of Mormonism Salt Lake City, Utah this is HEART OF THE MATTER LONG and the name of our show tonight is YOUR responses to Ravi.

I’m your host.

Show 22L Your Responses to Ravi

Taped March 7th 2021 Aired March 9th 2021 FROM WISDOM LEECH

Dear Brother Shawn Thank you for another concise and thoughtful message. I’m hopeful to maintain my anonymity and appreciate you allowing me to do so. There are some questions on this topic of Male sexuality that I’ve wanted to ask for some time. In this era, I feel you can help so many of us men who, raised in Mormonism or Christianity, have been buried in guilt and shame.
Imagine that you're enjoying your Morning Bible study. Out at a bagel shop perhaps. You discover a new passage and feel an overwhelming sense of joy. You know this moment is inspired and God sent. In that moment a very attractive female walks in to the restaurant. She is scantily clad and in an instant, as your jaw drops into your cream cheese, your spiritual high has been replaced with all the senses of being a Heterosexual male.
Here are the questions:

Did the spirit literally leave as taught in the LDS faith?

Spiritual Walk and Temptation

Is your spiritual walk comprised forever now that you have “lust of the flesh”? (Didn’t Jesus teach to look with lust is equal to the act)

Did not the same God who dumped the dopamine in your system when aroused ask you not to look? How do you walk with Christ knowing you are going to look again.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

Respectfully, W.L (I’m calling myself the Wisdom Leech) P.S. Didn’t Ravi have the distinction of being one of 2 non Mormons to speak in the LDS tabernacle?

Shawn, Just watched your Leave Ravi Alone show…wow. I love the way you own your "flesh" and not condemn others for their sins. I actively watch HOTM and Mike Wingers shows.

Brotherly Support and Criticism

While watch Mike Winger cry tears over a man's fleshly sin which by the way ALL men including Mike and James White have looked upon a woman with lust… I was thinking of what would Christ do with Ravi? I know Christ would've drawn a line in the sand and said Those without sin cast the first stone. Then he would have embraced Ravi and forgiven him 100 times over. Love the way you mention about how critical people are over numbers like Ravi had 200 photos of lewd women on his cell. Give me a break. I would be surprised if a man DIDNT have sexy girl or 2 on his phone. Keep up the Lords work Shawn, I don't judge you for your Tequila drinking either lol that was hilarious. Love how open you are. I fully support your views and love your show Shawn. God bless you and keep it up.

Brother in Christ, Chris

From Merrygoroundhound

Your lack of accountability to the body is shown by the things you proudly admitted what you have done as a Christian at the end of your show. You have no right to even be in the church, let alone teach or pretend to pastor a church.

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone The Amen Corner • 3 days ago I disagree, we need to live Hebrews 12! To roll out the check list for the flesh indulgence is just wrong.

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone seek find • 3 days ago (edited) We all have skeletons in the closet. I will not boast in my flesh but I will boast of God's GRACE and MERCY. King David had a man's wife got her pregnant then had him murdered this was a man after God's heart. Blessed is the man whose sins are forgiven.

Experiences with Religious Debates

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone Robert Hasse • 3 days ago Quick word just on James White. I first encountered him while driving to San Diego and stumbling onto a Catholic radio station. He was in a debate with a Catholic defender, and the subject was Purgatory. White was clearly knowledgeable and well-versed in scripture. And the subject… was Purgatory! Should have been a snap. But all that said, the Catholic was waxing his tail. White got so pissed, he stopped responding to the other guy's questions. He clammed up like an angry child, refusing to answer points specifically directed at him. The next day I googled White and caught his show. He was recapping that very debate and explaining how he'd won! Egad! That was my first taste of the guy.

Discussion on Christian Conduct

you tell me he's a big fan of Rush "the rude-ass bigot" Limbaugh! That kinda Christianity we don't need.

Perspective on Grace and Salvation

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone Patrick Leyerle • 3 days ago (edited) Ravi is saved by grace through faith, not condemned by his mistakes. Shawn, I love this perspective of yours so much!

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone richard neumann ??

LEAVE Ravi Alone JCW ChauvinistWest Totally agree: met a couple at a maternity class, they seemed nice, using Christian-ese, he let me know he had his Masters in Divinity. Being born again out of Mormonism I wasn't impressed. He then proceeded to tell me his church had multiple services on the weekend, I said as long as the word is taught, he then said, well, not so much on Sunday because of all those services. I said have a great day. Never spoke to him again.

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone Chris Terranova Love the Video Sean. God is using you And others like you similar to the way he used John. We need brothers (and sisters) standing outside the church on Sundays proverbially crying out to their brothers and sisters inside

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone ADRIAN and KATRINA Dove let he who is without sin..cast the first stone….

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone Nick Kraitor Love your honesty Shawn.

Warnings Against Sin

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone Big Steve • 3 days ago 15:13 – Shawn flips the bird. That kind of irreverence is one of the reasons why I'm a fan.

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone

jamesb7777a • 4 days ago shawn, I just got to the end of this video and I must issue this warning from Gods word. God is telling you AND me that if we are drunkards or immoral (porn, which Im tempted to look at as well and I have been guilty of in the past of looking at) we will NOT enter heaven. I am tempted to look at porn nearly every day, that desire is not sin unless we actually give into it and actually look at the porn. at that point it becomes immorality and IF we continue in that we will not enter heaven, the same thing with alcohol, if you/we continue to buy alcohol and get drunk you/we will NOT enter heaven, NO, God does not approve/accept our drunkeness or immorality, he HATES our sin. sir, you are in great deception if you believe God "understands" our sins and will excuse the. paul told christians that immoral and idolaterios people will not enter heaven, he then says " let no man decieve you!, becouse of these things (immorality and idolatry) the WRATH of God comes upon the children of disobedience. we all MUST stay away from immorality, porn, alcohol, idolatry in order to enter heaven.

IN RESPONSE to THIS Robert Hasse • 3 days ago Not according the to Sermon on the Mount.

jamesb7777a • 4 days ago shawn, while I agree with you on a lot of this you are making a huge error. every human being has a sinful flesh that desires sin and is tempted to sin, being tempted to sin however is NOT sin. it only becomes sin when we do the thing we are being tempted to do. having a desire to have sex with my next door neighbors wife is the sinful flesh desiring sin, however it only becomes sin when I act on that desire and do something to cause me to get closer to having sex with my next door neighbors wife. desiring to drink alcohol is the sinful flesh desiring sin. it only becomes sin when I go buy the alcohol and drink it. you are implying that EVERY man especially christian leaders are actually acting out thier temptations, this is false. ravi acted out his sinful flesh's desires and was a devil in sheeps clothing. from recent revelations we see that John macarthur is an idolater of money and materialism with $14 million net worth, $900,000+ year salary, 3 homes valued at $2.5 million, and 2 country club memberships. the bible says idolaters and immoral people will not enter heaven. again, every human on earth has a sinful flesh that desires sin, IF we give into those desires and continue to do so we will not be allowed into heaven despite trusting in Jesus. Jesus and the apositle paul warned over and over to us all that if we continue in sin we will not enter heaven, Jesus said " workers of iniquity" would not be allowed into heaven despite calling Jesus LORD LORD.. ravi

Religion as a Place to Hide from God

SHOULD be condemned as should john macarthur so that the church will fear going into sin as well. Paul said to rebuke sinful church leaders in front of ALL that they may fear God.

Reflections on Criticisms and Cancel Culture

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
C Whitener • 4 days ago (edited)
I just heard this quote; it's my thought of the week: "Religion is the perfect place to hide from God." -Richard Rohr

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
Max Frank • 11 hours ago
Great author.

Cami Mons
I'm sorry Cami ???? my notes got messed up here.

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Jack Dawson
This is excellent. Especially in today’s day and age of “Cancel Culture” and so many Christians are up in arms about it. Which is ironic, since us Christians created the original “Cancel Culture”. Instead of canceling we gotta start loving.

Religious Manipulations

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
Jump rope stairs
Publicly subscribed to you (2 years)
Good vid. Can you explain how Mormons are frustrated in a church that didn't prepare them for government overriding them and closed churches?

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Marsage
Shawn, please do not back down. Keep flipping those tables. Do not allow these wolves in sheep's clothing to guilt you into stopping your attack. Expose these hypocrites, defend the faith. Much love brother, I will join you soon.

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
Dan Reich
Well of course everyone sins but Ravi, like Joseph Smith, was completely controlled by his flesh. They carefully plotted and then reveled in their sin. Both were phonies.

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
Danny Larsen
Amen, Shawn. Strongly agree.

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Patricia Lang • 4 days ago
Thank you for this perspective. I really appreciate it.

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RMS Ministries • 4 days ago
Shawn, from an Acts 28 dispensationalist to a full preterist, take care brother!

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Joseph Aggs • 4 days ago
We can learn much from all this but it shouldn’t be harped on over and over.

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
Guy Smiley • 4 days ago
This dude can grow a sick beard!

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
DDubya • 4 days ago
Whether any of these men were brilliant academics or trash collectors, what is the defense of Ravi?

[21L] Leave Ravi Alone
Sarah Leann Young
I don't think it was so much a defense of Ravi as it was an offense to those pointing their fingers at him.

Collin Smith
I've always been afraid of what I call "super saints" because they put unrealistic expectations out there…and it is discouraging. I just caught the very end of your stream, but thank you.

Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. The debt is paid in full. Where sin abounds Grace abounds MORE. Love you Brother. Faith and Love.

If Shawn Had a Church
Jesus is Lord The truth will set you free
But people still sin while going to “church”. Why do people think it’s okey to live in a sinful lifestyle but say they are Christians. Something is not right.

If Shawn Had a Church
JB Weld
Love the sinner hate the sin

If Shawn Had a Church
Lori Neilson
Shawn Mcranney has a big heart ??

If Shawn Had a Church
Luminous Graphics
So glad I found your channel! Thanks Shawn!

A Personal Journey of Faith

Religious Manipulations 37b
Prodigal Daughter
I had to step out and become inactive 10 years ago because it was giving me bad vibes and I was seeing the hypocrisy. My kids were young and I had no exposure to anti-Mormon anything, but I just couldn’t go where I was made to feel worthless! So glad 10 years later I was saved as I learned the truth of the horrid church I was born and raised in. I dived into The Word and seeing the glaring contradiction between Jesus’ teaching and LDS theology, I can never call them anything but Mormon/LDS. It’s an ANTI CHRIST doctrine! Love your content!

Religious Manipulations 37b
Prodigal Daughter
I give Ayn Rand credit for being my first step out of the Mormon church and ultimately not becoming an atheist or believing in subjective morality. A great point of her virtue of selfishness is that when someone ambitious and industrious, seeks a profit, they create opportunity for others to gainful employment and strengthens economy, staving off socialism and communism. Pre-Ayn Rand, my subjective Mormon thought patterns didn’t serve me. I started using objectivity and logic by denying myself an emotional reaction to any idea that entered my head and as I stepped away from the church which caused me to question the existence of God and morality, it was that objective thought practice that forced me to believe.

Reflections on Faith and Understanding

in God and moral absolutes. It made me ultimately be born again because I could realize that this was not an emotional process, it was my intelligence and God’s miracle of giving me a new heart that brought me to it. Remember, the heart is deceitful and emotion is what traps people in fear and cults. I agree with so much of your content, glad I found you!

[Rand or Dostoyevski – 50a]

cmriverside
I'm just glad Shawn explained that tattoo. Years! Years I've wondered about that.

[20S] To the Haters of Heaven

MOSSYMAN 789 wrote the following:
Not true. Jesus is so powerful all will be eventually will be saved. Check out tent maker Minstries. All will be in the new Jerusalem. God only punishes with purpose which means after punishment comes mercy and salvation. The Young’s Literal Translation says hell is for a time. Hell is temporary and all will be saved including the devil. God in Christ saves all in due time. Hell is temporary and all will be saved in christ.

[20S] To the Haters of Heaven

seekfind
That answer you gave brother Shaun at time 25:15 really opened my eyes. Makes so much sense. Thank you Brothers.

The Role of Love

Are You Good

Stephanie Smith
Love is the answer.

Shut Up And Smile

seek find • 2 days ago
So true Brother

Shut Up And Smile

Stephanie Smith • 2 days ago
Amen. Love your honesty and transparency Shawn, a breath of fresh air.

[Ep 78 Interview With Kwaku El Part 1 -HOTM 2.0]

Prodigal Daughter • 4 days ago
Ugh, quackoo.

[21s] Grateful for it All

JDUB • 4 days ago
That beard is reaching epicness. Love you Sean. Thank you for your ministry.

[21s] Grateful for it All

A GOD FOR THE ATHEIST • 4 days ago
The TRUTH is we do not exist. We consist of molecules which consist of protons electrons neutrons which are just electromagnetic energy fields. Apparently this mass of energy is sapient. I think therefore I am.. But what where why how am I? No answers available… therefore my sapient consciousness must CREATE ANSWERS From nothing except thought or electromagnetic energy fields. I think therefore I am. I am creating my own purpose and meaning since there really is none. In the beginning was the word. “Whhhatt??,” yeah that’s where we began. Where who began? Shrug. Where what began? Shrug. WHY AND HOW, did whatever I am begin? Shrug? Since there is no answer, I must CREATE answers. We are the creator and the creation. We are a singularity and hat created ourself but then those pesky questions needed answers and for every answer, it only CREATED more questions and thus the universe came into existence…..we have been multiplying exponentially ever since. I think therefore I am… just a singularity a conscious self awareness growing and growing with every answer demanded and question it creates….all that exists is composed of yes no, on off, 1 0. 00111010. All the answers to all the questions expressed as a binary language… but the 0 is nothing so only the 1’s exist. 1111 but only the NOW 1 exists because the past nows are forever over and the future nows do not exist yet. We are the SINGULARITY of this NOW UNIverse which is constantly changing form. Ever expanding as the answer to the questions just create more questions that must be answered about a UNIverse of what why who how… that have no answers…so WE CREATED ANSWERS yes we are GOD the creator of our UNIverse….. only NOW has ever existed constantly expanding as a singularity. But we have created a beautiful existence of meaning and purpose to enjoy forevermore… what purpose? LOVE !!! Built by FAITH in our PasT Nows and HOPE for better Future Nows. These three remain … Faith hope and love and the greatest of these is love because. Only our love we have NOW will ever exist.

Insights on Gratefulness

Epistemology

seek find
Thank you brother I needed to hear that.

[s] Grateful for it All

Michael Carr • 5 days ago
As you say, grateful for the tempering by the Almighty. Good stuff.

[21s] Grateful for it All

DDubya
He looks like Brigham Old.

[21s] Grateful for it All

DDubya
When one invests in erroneous thinking, it is hard to admit it, and even harder to change it.

[21s] Grateful for it All

Lurena Cornella • 5 days ago
You look like Brigham young

INTERVIEW WITH JOAN FOWLER

HOWARD KING
Great interview, Shawn and Joan! Very honest.

Intelligence Does NOT Create the Christian

Sadie F
I’ve never seen Shawn’s feet

JOAN FOWLER

Julie McAllen
Publicly subscribed to you (6 years)
• 1 week ago
Joan, Joan, Joan, where do I

Awakening to Spiritual Realities

I love you! Such a great interview (thank you Shawn). You are indeed blessed to articulate what needs to be said concerning the awakening of a soul to hear God's voice even while in the deceptive clutches of formalized religion. He spoke clearly to you, though only 2 days prior you were defending falsehoods. Amazing. As you know, I have my own story in being called out of Jehovah's Witnesses and as soon as my thumbs stop typing this, I'm sharing it with two former JWs transitioning out. Your words are intelligent and encouraging. Thank you for sharing your story, sister!

Embracing Change While Sharing Faith

[20L] Time with Joan Fowler

Chris Terranova: We love you, Shawn. Just like Don Henley said, you got back to "the heart of the matter" just like old times! She is indeed an intelligent tour de force.

Marlo Oaks: I agree, I hate Mormonism, but I LOVE the Mormon people. I too was once deceived. We cannot reach these people by debate, only by Love. They shut down inside once the debate begins. Remember, they are victims in this in most cases.

Ep 45: An Interview with Sandra Tanner

John Humble • 1 week ago (edited): Shawn, I love your show. But you haven’t been answering comments for weeks? I miss the call-ins too? But now it seems you don’t respond to comments anymore?

Richard Neumann: Shawn, your words seem similar to Evangelical. (Those that don't receive Christ will be on the outside of the realm of the New Jerusalem?????)

Perspectives on New Jerusalem and Salvation

[20S] To the Haters of Heaven

Duane Dahl jr • 1 week ago: Nice work, as always Shawn. The Dogs were outside the New Jerusalem gates, good to be a dog!

Aimee Johnson • 1 week ago (edited): I think that the New Jerusalem is a current spiritual reality for living believers who have not yet physically died, who are saved by God's Grace through Faith in the Finished Works of Jesus Christ. As it says in the Bible, we are seated in Christ Jesus in Heavenly places. We have the opportunity now to go out into the world and invite people to come into God's Kingdom with us.

T-Bone V: Shawn, what about the unpardonable sin? Didn't Jesus say blasphemy against the Holy Ghost will not be forgiven?

Dan Reich: Publicly subscribed to you (5 months). Why are there so many warnings in the Bible for those who reject God and/or practice evil if, in the end, there is universal salvation for all? That makes no more sense than eternal torment.

Chris E: There is still the process of sanctification. Holiness is a calling of the Spirit. I believe there are still rewards and callings for those who are in Christ. Just because we believe that all will be saved does not mean we also believe that it's prudent to live an immoral and selfish life. Love still calls, and it is not an easy burden to carry.

Glass Formely Known As Sandcastle: If I were to get into the New Jerusalem in the presence of God, would I be able to visit somebody who is outside the walls/gates?

Rethinking Salvation and Integration

DDubya: Hell is an English word employed by King James translators, perhaps by way of the Bishop’s Bible, to translate “grave” in both the Hebrew and Greek texts. “Hell” quite simply, maybe most simply, means the grave. As far as eternal torment goes, that absurd, if not vindictive notion, is an example of eisegesis, reading one’s own world-views into a text. I recommend "Immortalizing Evil" by C. E. Chandler on this subject.

J7 T8: I would love a discussion on how to better integrate people of different beliefs and ways of living and how to better communicate with them in our lives. Somehow Paul was able to do this; he was willing to talk to anyone, and Jesus also. Neither one of these great reformers advocated violence towards others despite their deeply held beliefs.

Religious Manipulations 37b

Truth Seeker • 2 weeks ago: Nelson gave a conference talk in 1990 about how Mormon was hated by God. Later, the current prophet of the church, Spencer W. Kimball, gave an entire talk on how good it was in the sight of God for the name Mormon be used. Nelson's attitude towards the name of the church directly called Spencer W. Kimball a fallen prophet, and every prophet before.

Are You Good

him, back to Joseph Smith, unworthy and so out of touch with God that he was the very first prophet of the church that was open enough to God for God to make his extreme displeasure known to.

Gary Stavropoulos • 2 weeks ago Compared to the god of the bible everyone who hasn’t committed a crime against humanity is good. The god of the bible is a petty, cruel and vindictive monster who supports slavery and genocide. I question the morality of anyone who has read the bible and doesn’t view god as the villain. “God gave his only begotten son” = human sacrifice

Chris E He offered the Son, men killed him. How many innocent people has God killed? Where does He ever condone slavery?

design core • 2 weeks ago @richard neumann I had better luck finding the truth watching music videos

T-Bone V Ezekiel 33:11 (KJV) Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Rex Albright Why are you cursing?

Time With Kathy Hanson

Laura Odle • 2 weeks ago What an amazing lady. May God continue to bless her and HOT.M for bringing hope faith and love into our lives who are seeking Truth. Tami Johnson So much courage in sharing her story! Hugs to Cathy Sarah Leann Young Oh, my Lord. Bless Cathy's heart. What a beautiful and loving woman who has been through so much. Praise God for leading her to CAMPUS.

Ruth Smart CAMPUS I love them. Thanks Cathy. I didn't know what I would have done either.

ChristyB good stuff

Beware Beware Beware

Jon Golden This is so insightful, and gives me a lot of perspective about my church. There is some moral relativism in it that has become cultural sins in the body. How people date is a big one. I’ve gotten a lot of flack for it because I think differently. Even though I know I’m not in sin I struggle with false guilt. All I can do is love, and respect their opinions.

STC 16 Loved it Shawn……thank you

Stephanie Smith • 2 weeks ago Thank you for this message Shawn. I totally agree!

Ruth Smart I LOVE your show!! TSCC never wanted me I just didn't realize it. Sending Love to you. XO

Brit Eddy • 2 weeks ago Through textual criticism we can see that we have pretty much what was in the original autographs. So the transmission of the New Testament is as reliable as the Old Testament. There is nothing wrong with using the terminology of Old and New Testament. Many words have a range of meaning and the context shows us what we mean. I do think the Old Testament is of great value. It is the scriptures Jesus and his followers had in the early church. But they did not use the original text, it was the translation into Greek, ie the LXX or Septuagint. The quotes from the Old Testament in the new are LXX quotes.

Kyle “You called my name, and I ran outta that grave.”

Why Did Shawn Let Satan Come Into His Life Boomer22z It’s amazing how natural of a grasp he has on critical thinking and skepticism. It’s a shame he hasn’t taken it that final step and applied it to Christianity. It’s just as silly as Mormonism is when viewed through an objective lens. I’m an atheist but still enjoy this channel for his debating ability alone.

The Trinity – 40a Michelle Ujano So talented! Awesome!

Hawk Davison Hawk Davison • 3 weeks ago I love how God is made Authority and we are just seeking with opinions. But His truth remains.. Love you Shawn, been your brother since my first born fifteen years ago and four babies later, we were Mormons. Love you forever plus one day brother, thank you for being a lighthouse brother. God be with us all.

Teresa Dillingham And it’s all balanced by a RAFT!!!! ‘Jesus’

Danny Larsen Interview Stephanie Smith Danny's testimony brought joy to my soul and tears to my eyes. God is good.

Guy Smiley I dig this dude. He is a seeker of truth. He seems very transparent and appears to not only hate facades, but seems

Exploring Diverse Christian Perspectives

Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up

Devoted to the acquisition of the unadulterated truth. Bless this man.

Jon Bystrom: I hope someday Christianity moves beyond "self-improvement" and moves to world improvement. After 2,000 or 190 years, its gotta move beyond "waking up," to DOING SOMETHING CHRIST WOULD!

Time with Danny Larson

Matthew Jeffries • 3 weeks ago: Hi Shawn. Thanks so much for this great testimony from Danny. God is doing a great work in the lives of so many people within mormonism. God is good, all the time God is good. Amen.

Melissa Hursey • 3 weeks ago: Excellent

Valerie Eckles • 3 weeks ago (edited): When and where are the Bible studies? Wow thank you so much!!

Sarah Leann Young: Great interview! Thank you so much for the work you do in reaching the LDS, Danny. We definitely need to pursue the Ex-Mormon Conference. Hopefully COVID stops ruining our fun soon.

H Bendzulla: Very interesting to watch and listening. Striking honest and true story recalling a very interesting life as a Mormon and than stepping into the next step as a convert to the real Christ Life living.

UltraAar: anarchy is an antichristian stance

The Problem With Systematic Theology

Covered19 • 3 weeks ago: Fantastic common sense points! The questions arise when ones subjective, experiential knowledge/understanding, contradicts propositional knowledge. To which do we defer? Is there knowable absolute truth regardless of our experience? I personally, reexamine my propositional knowledge but with great caution, fully aware of the danger of building "doctrines" around my own understanding. The heart can be deceitful. I have convinced myself of many a thing based on experience. Even that God wanted me to sin according to some great purpose it would serve in His sovereignty. I certainly found scripture that somewhat supported my experience. That is obviously one extreme. The other is to never trust ones own experience and understanding in the face of "facts" I have been both places. Both a cold stoic intellectual faith and a passionate somewhat incoherent faith. I hope my question makes sense, tho you've probably already done the show….

Covered19 • 3 weeks ago: Id like to add that truth, as I understand it, has been of immense value in my life to guide and guard my heart and mind when life doesnt make sense. It has served as an anchor to teach me which thoughts to take captive that I not be lead astray and my mind renewed instead. I believe all 4 P's yet what is the authority when they contradict one another?

Melissa Hursey • 3 weeks ago: Ty for this

Jonan Amar • 3 weeks ago: Jesus was accused of the same by his own people… God bless you brother ??

Michael Carr • 3 weeks ago: They are afraid to unite with you Shawn, because then they may have to consider what you say. Judaism in the first century would cause division. Unorthodox opinions are a good thing. Full Preterism is called heresy and fear of such information is divisionary. Contrary to this, it should serve to unite as we study and prove all things.

Joe Cook: Wrong christ, right christ. Wrong scripture, bible being only word of god. They might as well argue their favorite color and movie too.

President Hinkley admits Mormons Do Not Follow The Traditional Christ

WingedInfinity: Im not a mormon but this clip proves absolutely nothing. A waste of time.

Thor Bradshaw: What is the best episode for why mormons believing because of their "feelings" being unbiblical?

Truthseeker Staats • 1 month ago: Of course Hinkley doesn't believe in the traditional Christ. He believes in the Hebrew, biblical and real Christ. Where's the surprise??

TEAR FROST • 3 weeks ago: The mormon Christ is NOT the biblical Christ. I know l was raised Mormon now Christian. Do your research. Feel free to respond and happy new year!

Roy Brocklehurst • 3 weeks ago: I totally agree I was Mormon for nearly 20 years and I left because they the Mormons believe in a different Jesus to the Bible am sorry if I burst yours bubble and I don't mean to be rude.

Discussion on Mormon Teachings

but you Mormons do anything that Joseph Smith taught about Jesus is not the same Jesus as in the Bible infact Jesus stated that if a prophet reveal one untrue revelation then he a fault prophet and Joseph Smith got so many wrong including the proper dates of the first vision.

Epistemology, Eschatology, and Existential crisis…. Wyoming Trailer Trash I was thinking about this all week, and saw this.

Joe B I recommend No Man Knows My History by Fawn Brodie. She did an insane amount of research. And stuck her nose in resources she wasn’t supposed to & was consequently ex-communicated.

Episodes and Broadcasts

Episode 326: Book of Mormon Changes

Ep 16 – James White and Shawn McCraney – HOTM 2.0 Jared White 31:49 Crocodile tears. Booo whooo.

Ep 16 – James White and Shawn McCraney – HOTM 2.0 Covered19 I LOVE you brother Shawn. You are AUTHENTIC as fucc and make so much sense. "It should be as clear to the beggar as to the scholar" Amen

24 -7 Joseph Morgan Well said my friend! Live in our hearts and what we do and how we live is the key!

Episode 572: Interview with Mike Norton Jared White Funny how this interview is ver batten, to the John Daley one. Noah has his satire story down pat.

Perspectives on Pride

PRIDE Jake Collings Are proud to be a Christian

MATT SLICK Saintbauzely Essaouira Matt the snake at is best!

PRIDE Andrea Crouch I love this so much.

Lurena Cornella I know the the golden rule He who has the gold makes the rules. Mormon joe

[14L] A Revised Assessment of Mormonism Lurena Cornella Why do I need to join any religion?

Pride Dave Corrigan I want a sticker with the Ark under a rainbow that says, Obedient or Humble. Let's take it back haha

Pride Polly Dunn Its a very ME ME I want all the attention world just look at some of the social media out there. Sad to see but its only going to get worse.

Pride Chance Chopp Ya, when it comes to the rainbow, I just think that is a message to be mercifull to them.

Pride Chris E It's just the world being the world. I hear what you're saying but I think it will mostly fall on deaf ears. If the Spirit doesn't move them and make them see the carnality of it, well, they won't be moved.

Pride Wilford Great description of white durbin and Apologia.

Robin Roberts I was raised LDS and 2 years ago I read the bible without reference. I cried and prayed that what I was reading was wrong? All my life I had seen Jesus as a brother to satan, not seeing him as the diety he is. I learned about the free masons and Joseph Smith. My eyes were opened and now I am a new person in christ.. I lost friends but gained strength and truth with God.

K Sladerock My wife has been battling mental illness for years and just last year she found a doctor that prescribed the right medication. We have always had faith that God can heal but sometimes God let's u suffer. I'm not sure what GOD'S lesson was for us but I believe it was for good.

Kenia Mendes Faith and love brother!

Reflections on Faith

A Million Acres of Fun Daniel An interesting tale–some truth I believe. An important rub–it matters how we live–judgement maybe is not yet sealed upon many in eternity. What we do in the 2 mil acres matters.???

A Million Acres of Fun Ruth Smart • 1 month ago Our family was too poor to own a bible when I was a kid. I testify the spirit guided and directed me in my young life. HE wrote upon my heart. Just needed to say that. LOVE

[16L] Super Duper Importance Hawk Davison • 1 month ago (edited) Love ya Shawn, since 2006. Before our hair was less, salt more pepper. Love ya Sir, forever + 1 day. Thank you for just being you.

A Million Acres of Fun Chris E What if Jesus overcame sin already and we are simply battling the desires that are simply innate to flesh in order to truly understand His love? The eternal consequences of sin have been dealt with by Christ. However, in order to show the world that God is real, we overcome our own flesh. Maybe that's what Christ meant when He said "do your good works before men so they might glorify God"?

Jesus ™ I'm enjoying from a distance. Mind your P's and Q's

[17L] Time With Charlie Clark Laura Odle • 1 month ago (edited) Thank you for having Charlie on your show. I pray everyday that God will send a godly man into my son's life, as

Charlie Clark's Testimony

At 43 years old, he's a new father to a 17-month-old son. He desperately needs a mentor to help him whose walked in his shoes. Charlie, you've given me hope and faith to continue to pray for him, his companion, and my only grandchild. God bless you, Charlie. Thank you for sharing your life story.

17L] Time With Charlie Clark
G. J. M. • 1 month ago (edited)
Ground control to major tom. I just lost my cousin at 40 to heart attack while hunting birds in steep country. He left a 9-month-old son and wife behind

L] Time With Charlie Clark
John Humble
Great show Shawn What a great interview And your so right, God sometimes picks us! It’s amazing we don’t talk about these type of miracles more? We talk about Paul all the time in reference to Jesus Christ but forget that Paul (like your friend here) was selected by God…..and the rest is history!!! Why does God pick certain people as opposed to people searching for him? My theory / God knows our heart and we can’t comprehend the mind of God? Perhaps these human selections are simply Heavenly Father discerning at a deeper level past our limited understanding and perhaps it’s supposed to be this way? Maybe a seeker isn’t just someone overtly searching, maybe it’s the covert seeker not even knowing their own value that God picks? Example / Simba becoming the Lion King but it wouldn’t have happened without divine intervention ????

Testimony of God’s Purpose

17L] Time With Charlie Clark
Sarah Leann Young
Wow! Praise God, Charlie. I'm so blessed to know you and hear your story. I thank God that He saved your life and brought you back to your wife and boys. Something you experienced worth noting for me is the agape love your wife showed you after everything that happened while your church ousted you for having some different views on eschatology. I'm so glad you found Shawn and CAMPUS!

[17L] Time With Charlie Clark
Stephanie Smith
God uses us for His good purpose. I believe God's spirit came upon you and changed you Charlie not just for your wife and children alone, but also for your powerful testimony for all to hear! Thank you for sharing your story. ?

[17L] Time With Charlie Clark
Danny Larsen
Amazing journey, Awesome God, Christ like forgiveness from a loving wife. Charlie's testimony is powerful.

[17L] Time With Charlie Clark
Blake Champion
Wow. Just rediscovered, heart of the matter earlier today. Use to watch you on cable years ago, before you had the howdy sign and all. What was this guy referring to as far as a belief that's different from the church he attended for 10 years?

[17L] Time With Charlie Clark
Thomas Stollings
Great way to learn about you. Shawn is an amazing man. I love heart of the matter

[17L] Time With Charlie Clark
Melissa Hursey
Ty for this

Reflections and Interpretations

[17s] Back from the Dead
Robbie Carrier
Bro this is so cool! Dead in our trespasses. I got some major Tolkien imagery going on in my head from this.

[17s] Back from the Dead
Cami Mons
Beautiful

17s] Back from the Dead
John Humble • 1 month ago (edited)
I agree Shawn that love is our overall resurrection attribute. And yet, I can’t see how we wouldn’t take our intelligence and understandings of our own subjective human parts with us? To love and think and act are all part of our agency? We have music and science and laughter and emotion and pain and suffering mixed in with this probationary state called mortality? Can you explain a bit more your case for only taking love beyond the veil when we are resurrected? Thanks brother!!! Great subject for this show!!!!

Johnny Burns
David Bokovoy has a PhD in the Hebrew bible and the Ancient Near East. He specializes in Documentary Hypothesis and shows how textual criticism causes multiple interpretations of the bible. He understands how the biblical text is now a hodgepodge of spliced records conjoined to create a certain narrative. He's an Outlaw Mormon Saint and Viking banishing those of low IQ to an island of intellectual dirth and shackling them to their own corridors of echoing cognizant emptiness. He would be perfect for your show. He's also been on John Dehlin's Mormon Stories podcast.

[14L] A Revised Assessment of Mormonism
Johnny Burns • 1 month ago
I'm a Latter-day Saint and love praying the Rosary.

Heart Of The Matter
Heart Of The Matter

Established in 2006, Heart of the Matter is a live call-in show hosted by Shawn McCraney. It began by deconstructing Mormonism through a biblical lens and has since evolved into a broader exploration of personal faith, challenging the systems and doctrines of institutional religion. With thought-provoking topics and open dialogue, HOTM encourages viewers to prioritize their relationship with God over traditions or dogma. Episodes feature Q&A sessions, theological discussions, and deep dives into relevant spiritual issues.

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