Exploring the Nuances of Prophecy Interpretation: March 7th Yeshuan Open Forum Bible Study with Grady Risley

Exploring the Nuances of Prophecy Interpretation

In this enlightening episode of the Yeshuans’ Open Forum Bible Study, the leader delves into the nuanced realm of prophecy interpretation. The discussion focuses on the importance of understanding apocalyptic literature, Hebrew poetry, and the perspective of time as conceived by ancient societies.

Grasping the Historical and Cultural Context

The teaching emphasizes the vital need to grasp the historical and cultural context in which biblical prophecies were written to truly comprehend their messages. By understanding the ancient Hebrew mindset and their unique way of life, we can gain valuable insights into the meaning behind these prophecies.

Unraveling the Complexities of Apocalyptic Literature

One of the key aspects explored in this episode is the complexities of apocalyptic literature. The discussion highlights the purpose of this genre, which is to convey messages through exaggerated and symbolic language rather than literal descriptions. By examining the differences between modern perceptions and ancient Hebrew views on various aspects of life, such as honor, hospitality, and marriage, we can gain a deeper understanding of biblical prophecies.

Unlocking the Beauty of Hebrew Poetry

The episode also sheds light on the distinctive characteristics of Hebrew poetry. Through the use of parallelism and imagery, Hebrew poetry enriches our understanding of biblical texts. By analyzing engaging examples, listeners are guided through the intricacies of interpreting ancient texts in a way that resonates with contemporary audiences while staying true to their original context.

This teaching is a must-listen for anyone interested in deepening their understanding of biblical prophecy and apocalyptic literature. It offers valuable insights into the cultural and historical contexts that shape biblical narratives, encouraging listeners to approach these ancient texts with empathy and an open mind.

Whether you’re a long-time student of the Bible or new to its study, this episode provides a comprehensive overview that is both informative and thought-provoking. It invites us to consider the profound ways in which ancient wisdom can inform our modern spiritual journey.

For further exploration and discussion, visit the Yeshuan website where each episode receives its dedicated blog post. Join us in this ongoing conversation about the timeless relevance of biblical teachings and how they can guide us in our personal spiritual paths.

 

Video Transcript:

welcome to another episode of open Forum Bible study uh today we’re
going to be covering a topic that I think is really going to if you’ll pay attention and you’ll follow it I think
it’s really going to help you with some understanding of how to look at View and
uh interpret uh prophecy so uh without further Ado let me go ahead and get this
thing uh going here get my PowerPoint uh picked
up all right just to be sure can you guys confirm to me you can see
that I can see it yeah good all right so here we
go apocalyptic literature
Etc I finally hit the brick wall guys all right I I I was going let’s do Gog
and MOG and then I’m going to but my next thing was to bring in Prophecy and I just realized there’s no way to go
through the prophecy of Gog and Magog and show how it was in Esther unless you
can get an understanding and grasp prophecy and apocalyptic
literature and even poetry so what we’re going to do is we’re just
going to dive into that uh I hope to get through it all this week I’ll look at questions and you guys have questions
you know maybe we can we can wrap it up maybe today if we if we have the time go through everything I know my slides
don’t cover some of the more important parts just because they didn’t go there but I will touch on them okay to
understand prophecy we have to understand apoc apocalyptic literature hebo poetry
and the way they thought of time that’s going to be something very important animportant how they considered time I’m
not saying we have to think like they did but if we don’t know how they are thinking we won’t understand what was
written to them then okay that’s the whole point if we can’t understand how
they were thinking then we have no way to comprehend or understand what they
were thinking then about what they read then that had been written to them then
okay personally I like to explain this using my own definition of words uh I
know these aren’t the dictionary definitions of these two words but I think uh when I’m finished you’ll see what I’m what I’m referring to and what
I’m talking about and as soon as I’m done with this I will ask if that makes sense so the two words I’m going to
explain are sympathy and empathy sympathy is a feeling for
something or somebody based upon experience or having experienced the same thing as they did empathy is okay
I’m sorry I messed that up sympathy is feeling for something or somebody based upon your feelings or experiences the
example Mary just lost her father and I really feel for her I remember how I
felt when my father died okay Mary’s father had died my father has died I
know how she’s feeling I can sympathize even if it hasn’t happened to
you it’s still possible you say Mary just lost her let me turn off this down
my stupid phone
here okay uh Mary just lost her father and I really feel for her I know how I
would feel if my father died okay so you you have a father Mary has a father yeah
I would feel bad I can see that that’s sympathy as well okay I can be sympathetic because I have lost my
father and even if I haven’t lost my father I can imagine how Mary must feel
based upon how I would feel
now empathy is imagining what another person is feeling based upon what you
know about them there’s a there’s a difference I’m going try to explain this Mary just lost
her favorite cat I hate cats but if I liked cats and my cat died I imagine I’d
be sad Mary likes cats and so I’m sure she’s
sad another one and this is something that is right mil the especially Special
Operations in the military rely so you have to be empathetic or you’re going to
die that’s just a fact imagine a Tango hunting me and I’m
140 de and it’s 140 degrees outside okay he’s more acclimated to the environment
than I am and I imagine he knows that I imagine he’s going to be looking for me
to hide in the coolest place I can find he’s going to hide and wait for me somewhere that gives him a good line of
sight to a cool place I’m going to avoid those cool areas because I imagine he’s
going to be waiting for me to go there in fact I’m going to look for the cool place and Scout the surrounding areas in
search of him okay I can’t sympathize with his belief I can’t sympathize with why he
wants to kill me I can’t grasp those things however if I don’t empathize and put
myself in his shoes and imagine where he is what he’s doing why he’s doing what he’s doing I’m not going to be able to
understand what he’s going to do I’m going to die I’m not going to get it I’m done so to me
we empathize with somebody or something that is different than us I can’t
sympathize with somebody who’s glad their abusive father died a horrific
death I can’t sympathize with them because whether my father is dead or not he wasn’t
abusive okay I can empathize with them though
and understand why they would be glad their abusive father had died horribly
empathy is putting yourself in somebody else’s shoes and imagining what they would think feel or do based upon what
you know about them and their situation there’s a lot of things that
we can’t sympathize with when it comes to ancient Hebrews or even many modern-day
cultures however we can learn about them and the more we learn about them the more we can empathize with them and
understand what they thought great an understanding of where they’re coming through from why they’re doing
what they’re doing and why they did what they did what they were supposed to
think what they were supposed to understand as we look at this we will use the term Hebrew thought and Western
thought often it’s super interesting to study these actual terms but for our study
Hebrew thought is going to refer to how Hebrews or Israelites thought and Western thought is just going to refer
to how we modern first world General people think okay so when when you see
it I don’t think oh this is the exact term definition you go go study that if
you want it’s great and wonderful it just it that’s not the specific scientific or uh sociological terms or
not what these are meant to represent keep in mind these are social
cultural individual generalizations and they do not
represent what every single person thought or how every single person acted
okay let’s start by looking at a few things that are completely backasswards we are very
databased up until just a few years ago that meant books letters and writings
okay now the principle is still true but it’s in the form of bits and bites of computer imergy and data which we
witness on smartphones and computer screens the Hebrew Hebrew culture was an
oral culture they communicated history and events orally and not through
writing literacy was low and there were far better things to do than learn to read and write in an agrarian
society we would all die if we suddenly had to live like Hebrews lived we aren’t
used to raising our own food and or producing a product to trade for food
sure we have jobs jobs I I get it I yeah there’s a similar we have jobs and our
labor is compensated with by money and that money is then used to purchase things to eat but it really isn’t the
same thing it there had to be something produced okay that you your family your
people did that caused you to be able to trade something
uh yeah sure there were people got jobs and they worked here for worked as a laborer and they would get money that
that did exist but the idea was more I’m going to be a sheep herder I need I need
15 sheep a year for me and my family I’m going to try to produce 35 or 40 sheep
and so the out of those 35 or 40 sheep if they got 40 that gives them 25 sheep
that they can then sell and selling those sheep to somebody who isn’t a shepherd they could then you know buy or
trade a sheep for x amount of grain or whatever okay it was that type of
society and I’m sure I’m not even GNA get into it much more but I’m sure you know what I’m saying there okay Hebrews
lived a greater Society you grew a raised food or produced something that was traded for food and usually a
combination of the two and like I said I’m not saying there weren’t people who worked for money yes they did but
generally speaking the culture in general ran the way I explained it okay
this go now this next Point goes to a previous point that we that we really that we we up this next point is kind of
a repeat of a point before we rely heavily upon what is written down and put very little trust in what somebody
says what I mean by that is we have we are as a society and in general and I
know this doesn’t apply to Charles at all but what’s written down is General
looked at as being more reliably true
than something that is said by somebody else Hebrew trusted far more in what
they heard than what they read okay and the reason for this was if
they knew ishmail to be an honest good man of good character and ishmail told
them something they could trust what he said based upon who ishmail was they
knew who he was what his reputation is that he was a good man and he has said this I trust him because I know
him if they read something they didn’t trust it because who knew who the author
was even even if it says it’s this person how in the world do they truly know that that’s who it was and so they
they don’t know the character of the author they don’t know who he was and so they tended to not trust writing or at
the very least trust it less than oral tradition and oral oral
communication uh we today in this society and I’m just these are just going to be some quick ones and some of
them people argue with me about and don’t agree on that’s fine uh it’s just
so what how I see it and what I understand it so and let it be what it is but we’re personally religious and
socially secular okay I am a Yeshua who is an
American okay privately I’m a Yeshua in my I’m religiously I am a
yeshu physically yes I’m an American okay Hebrews were personally secular and
socially religious they were Hebrews of Abraham
that were Israelites under Covenant okay their religion was being under Covenant
what they were they were under Covenant socially they were sons of Abraham okay
or even identified as from the in the tribes of Israel but religiously okay
they were Israel the nation under Covenant we identify oursel as
individuals that are citizens of a Nation a Hebrews identity was being a
citizen member of Israel if they were cut off from the people
they had no identity that yeah they they they were they were their Le their
lineage was of this but truthfully they were lost in society they had no place
their identity was wrapped up in being an
Israelite we think of Life ours and others and hell we think of life our
life and other people’s life and health our health and other people People’s Health as most important and and value
them above almost anything else right generally above everything else not
saying there’s not exceptions but generally those are what we look at and value Hebrew or Eastern thought even in
today views or in viewed honor theirs and others and dignity theirs and others
whether real or perceived as more important than either heal life or
health okay it was better to die honorably than it was to live in shame and even there’s
an example where uh David’s enemies shaved some of his men’s beards they
caped them they shaved half of their beard and David let them wait to come
back to the city until their beards have grown in because it was such an insult okay they’re perceived like I said
perceived or real that honor was super important okay for
us breaking a vow or promise is something we hate to do okay we don’t look to do it we detest it but for a
Hebrew breaking of our promise carried severe Andor dire personal National and
religious consequences for us hospitality is sharing what we have with our
guests for Hebrews Hospitality was was something you did
hospitality is what you did to your guests by protecting and serving them
they were your guests they were your responsibility and providing them protection and serving their needs was
your obligation for us marriage is what we do when we love somebody and can’t live
without them love is primary and obligation is
secondary for Hebrews marriage is what you did to have a family children and grow the nation obligation was primary
and love was secondary now let’s talk about Hebrew
poetry before I continue uh any any comments on any of those any discussions
anything you can think to add or any disagreements on on what I what I said
there no I like it all right well let’s continue on then
we’ll go into just do a real quick overview of some poetry we’re not going to get deep into that when you think of
poetry we think of stanzas of rhyming words spoken in Rhythm that Express a coherent thought you know Sly sold
seashells by the seashore whatever Hebrew poetry is not like that
Hebrew basic basically Hebrew poetry employs parallelisms repetition and
imagery and figurative language to convey its message caner and Tempo are
often used but it’s the continuity of thought that is important and not rhyme and
Rhythm uh think about Psalm one blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel
of the wicked nor stands in the way of Sinners nor sits in the sea of of S
scoffers right so blessed the man who gives three things that are not quite
identical but are very very closely related and identifiable as connected
okay but his Delight is in the law of the Lord and on his law he meditates day
and night again you see his Delight what’s the contrast the but this man his
Delight is in the law of the Lord so the contrast is between the expressions of who the wicked is and the Sinners and
the scoffers he’s like a tree what’s like a tree well he’s planted by a
stream of water yields fruit in its season and its Leaf does not wither okay all he does he will prosper or all he
does prospers but the Wicked the con the the contrast to that are not so why
because they’re like the shaft which the wind drives away and therefore because of that the wicked will not stand in the
Judgment nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous for the Lord for the
Lord knows the way of the righteous in the contrast but the Way of the Wicked Will perish so I I’m I’m I don’t mean
I’m not doing get deep into this I hope it’s making sense I hope you can see how there’s a difference none of this stuff
Rhymes in Hebrew if you’re speaking it none of it would well not none of it but
most of it won’t rhyme there is a CA a caner to it that’s why you see them doing this at the
wall okay there’s a caner to it there a lot The Poetry but it isn’t in the rhyth
it isn’t in the rhyming it’s in the uh meaning of the
the words and how they interconnect another example I just threw up here Isaiah 54:5 for your maker is your
husband the Lord of hosts is his name for the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer the god of the whole earth he
is called okay so you you kind of just get a sense of it it’s not it’s it we’ll
talk more about it later uh but it’s not really that’s not really the super point I’m wanting to get to right now but try
to make a I’m going to try to make apocalyptic literature simple and a
little fun we’re don’t have a little fun okay apocalyptic liter literature is
used to slam home a point using exaggerated and
surious language and imagery Superfluous language and
imagery think of apoc apocalyptic literature as
vulgarity I know I just L us a bunch of you but hear me out everybody just hold on a
second don’t shut me off right away I do give you a warning though uh this is
going to get a little vulgar uh just so that you know which of these following sentences
has the most impact and best explains how I feel and what I’m going to do first
sentence tomorrow I shall come to town on my motorized bicycle and when I
encounter Thee I will strike you repeatedly until I have won our contest
you terrible person or tomorrow I’m going to ride
into town on my hog and rain down hell and destruction on you I’m going to kick the ever loving out of you and
completely decimate your ass you worthless son of a
which one of those two
sentences or phrases okay are you going to remember and which one is more
impactful in revealing of my true intentions and feelings the second for sure I mean just
listen tomorrow I’m going to ride into town on my hog and rain down hell and destruction on you I’m going to kick the
ever loving out of you and completely decimate your ass you worthless son of a I mean that is
expressive that is whoa wait a second okay I this is we know exactly there’s
absolutely no doubt whatsoever what I’m going to do to that person and how I feel about him whoever that is that I’m
angry with right we know what I’m I’m fixing to do
however which one of these sentences actually describes what I’m going to
do the first of course tomorrow I shall come to town on my motorized bicycle and
when I encounter Thee I will strike you repeatedly until I have won our contest you terrible
person that sentence there actually describes what I’m going to do so let’s
play a little game Let’s Pretend We’re a fly on thewall 2,000 years from now when some
super lucky Theologian finds the chronicles of Grady and starts examining it
so this lucky Theologian he reads the first sentence tomorrow I shall come to
town on my motorized bicycle and when I encounter Thee I will strike you repeatedly until I have won our contest
you terrible person after deciphering the ancient language of English this
Theologian concludes Brady is writing down what he is planning on doing the next day which is an unspecified date in
history he’s going to go into an unnamed town mounted upon a motorized two wheel
because it’s by meaning to machine he plans on coming into contact with
somebody he considers a terrible or bad person at which point he will initiate a
physical competition with that person during the competition Grady is planning on
repeatedly striking the terrible person until he emerges as the victory of the
contest the details of how the Victor will be detered it is unclear but
presumably Victory would be recognized as such by both parties
so any questions on that does that make sense to
everybody you’re good all right now let’s pretend the lucky Theologian finds
the second sentence Theologian reads tomorrow I’m going to ride into town on my hog and
rain down hell and destruction on you I’m going to kick the ever loving out of you and completely decimate your
ass you worthless son of a after deciphering this Anish ancient language
of English the Theologian concludes Brady was going to write some
sort of swine to an unnamed town it’s interesting to note that the swine depicted here is evidently some kind of
genetically engineered animal given that a typical swine would be unable to carry a full grown man for a long distance
however this is pure speculation all we can truly be sure of from the text is that Brady will go to town on
some sort of pig the unnamed town is most likely an evil town or Village we can ascertain
that due to the fact that at least one of the inhabitants is called a son of a indicating some type of dog and
human hybrid creature given the future tense used and the reference to tomorrow Grady is
prophesying that this coming destruction was coming to the direct object of the prophecy which is the shimera creature
itself Brady will cause hell evidently fire mixed with destruction whatever
that looks like to rain probably meaning to fall from the sky presumably upon the
creature but the context but in the condex it could be referring to the whole town in which the creature’s
located Brady will kick the hybrid till feces comes out from it however this
feces is not normal feces but is described as ever loving knowing
that love is good we can understand what Grady is saying here is that he is going to kick all of the good out of the
hybrid creature leaving only the evil further analysis of Grady’s writing
indicates that once the good has been forcibly removed from the creature by kicking it Grady is then going to
decimate its ass in an act of Mercy this is Mercy because instead of totally
removing the ass from the creature Grady is only going going to remove a tenth decimate of his ass this act of Mercy is
possibly due to the fact that the ass had produced something good when it when the good came out of
it it’s unclear in Grady’s writing as the whether the shimera is worthless because there is now more there is under
it is unclear in Grady’s writing as to whether the shimera is worthless because there is now no more good in it or
whether it was considered worthless even while the good was in it either way we can clearly see that at the end of
the encounter the son of a shimera creature is indeed of no monetary
value so conclusions knowing that we have never
encountered a hybrid human and dog we can ascertain that in the future there
will be at some point an actual son of a that is a human dog
hybrid we can also identify that this is evidently a future prophecy because if
something of this magnitude happened in a town it would surely be recorded by onlookers in that town we wait with
braided we wait with baited breath to see Grady ride into town on a B on a pig
and kick the ever loving out of some coming hybrid known as son of a
welcome to apocalyptic literature that is exactly how many
people read prophecy and then the apocal then interpret the apocalyptic
literature and try to apply it in today’s society okay of course this is
an extreme exaggerated extremely exaggerated and that’s the point okay
the first sentence that I gave the first phrase I gave in the set was accurate
and the second was wasn’t okay I wasn’t going to ride a pig I wasn’t going to
rain down hell and destruction I wasn’t going to kick actual out of anybody
I wasn’t going to remove a tenth of his ass I wasn’t act he wasn’t actually a
son of a however even though what was said in the second sentence wasn’t
literally going to occur it’s far more it far more accurately expresses to you
here and now in this Society what I was going to do and how I
felt okay does that make sense is that is
that correlating I you know and I’m just wanting to get an idea if that makes
sense ad on and Charles are you with me on that yeah that it was actually funny
but yeah it makes sense and and and so they read something
that’s exactly how no go
ahead no please you just step no I was just I was gonna say
that’s exactly how people read Revelation and I’m while you’re reading
that second scenario I was just kind of laughing I was like it’s it’s just it’s funny I thought it was so on point
brother that was hilarious well I thought it was funny cracked Cheryl up and and I I really did it because I
wanted to go something very extreme and and truthfully those two
different phrases okay the only one that truly tells somebody what is going to
happen is the first one but the one that is understood by us here the one that
the audience I’m talking to right now is going to understand and the where they are going to get the understanding and
grasp how angry I am grasp the enormity of what I’m getting ready to do is that
second one and so that is wi apocalyptic look I’m getting ready to go to one here
let’s look at Ezekiel let’s look at Ezekiel this is my this is my example and the Babylonians came to her
in the bed this this is speaking of Israel in the bed of love and they defiled her with whing lust and after
she was defiled by them she turned from them in disgust when she carried on her
whing so openly and flaunted her nakedness I turned in gust from her as I
had turned in disgust from her sister yet she increased her whoring
remembering the days of her youth when she played the horror in the land of Egypt and lusted after her lovers there
whose members were like those of donkeys and whose issue was like that of horses
thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young
breasts okay that’s that’s
pretty vivid okay he is giving and he’s
giving an example an over-the-top exaggerated
just vivid imagery a a dick bigger than a donkey and seminal emissions like
those of a horse I mean come on this is
communicating something to to these people and believe me they’re getting
his point they’re understanding what is being said it’s clearly figurative and very
clearly not literal it is the over-the-top exaggerated vulgar wording
and lingo that yahava uses to show how detestable he saw what Israel had done
particularly Judah okay we we’ve got to
grasp we’ve got to grasp that what is being said okay it’s
describing something in a way that they are going to understand and it is going
to hit them between the damn eyes in a way in which it doesn’t to
us can we understand what that’s talking about absolutely we know that he’s referring
to their adult to their adultery or their idolatry and he’s referencing it as
sexual imagery okay and and and interlacing that but
n did they I just you you get it you get it I’m not going to dwell on the point anymore uh in Isaiah 191 and I know this
is done this doesn’t uh line up right but I’ll just read the burden of Egypt behold the the Lord rideth upon a swift
cloud and shall come into Egypt and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence and the Heart of the Egyptians
shall met and melt in the midst of it and I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians and they shall fight everyone
against his brother and everyone against his neighbor City against City and Kingdom against Kingdom and the spirit
of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof and I will destroy the counsil thereof and they shall seek to seek to the idols
and to the chamber Charmers and to them that I have that have familiar spirits and to the Wizards and the the rest is
off screen there I didn’t have time to uh finish that up but here here’s the
point of it when did that happen well it happened long before even
Judah was taken into captivity well he came riding on a cloud
it it’s what it said you know so if you’re going to take things literally you’re going to have to say he
came riding on a cloud then if it wasn’t literal
then why do we look at it as being literal later okay and
there’s with prophecy one of the biggest issues that I have found
is I really hate doing this now because I had a whole a whole actually I’m not
going to do it now actually I’m not GNA do it now I’m gonna finish this up next week and get into Gog and maygog next
week because there’s a whole list I actually have of different prophecies
that I really think it’s important to show and and what is what I’m going to show are things
like okay we well I’m Not Gon to run it so this
has been a short one this week guys I’m GNA want I want to start cutting them down to about this time I want to keep
it to about a half hour maybe 35 minutes and make them just a hair short order to to give us more discussion time
afterwards uh this week I’m going to cut discussion time a little short for those who are going to watch this because I’m
gonna I want to mention a couple things that I’m gonna talk about next week and uh see if I can’t get adding on Charles
to uh give me a hand or give me some information on it but uh next week we’re going to have a really a really good uh
finish to this prophecy and how to read apocalyptic literature and some things that are really going to open your eyes
about how they thought about it how they saw it and how prophecy was fulfilled
and understood by Hebrews Israelites and Jews in that day and age
so um I’m gonna go ahead uh shut this off now catch you all next week and uh
we’ll have a lot of discussion about prophecy and uh figure out all this uh
what in the world it’s all about all right so see yall later Yuans thanks a lot
 
 

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