Heart of the Matter Broadcast

Live from Salt Lake City, this is Heart of the MatterTGNN’s original show where Shawn McCraney deconstructed religion and developed fulfilled theology. and I’m your host Shawn McCraneyFounder of TGNN and developer of the fulfilled perspective—calling people to faith outside of religion.. Let’s begin with a word of prayer.

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Announcements

Show 46: Five Points of Calvinism Fellowship
September 11th, 2018

Just a few announcements – Dan Wees was our guest a few weeks back, and he shared his amazing volumes of cross-referenced books on the Book of Mormon. Well, he forgot to mention that they are available not only online but also in the Salt Lake Library downtown. So, check them out (literally).

Also, I launched a GOFUNDME for Kristy Johnson, and you can read about it there. Kristy went in for a heart Cath today and still needs our financial help in her battle with life and her cause. Consider that if so led. I was prompted to create that GOFUNDME by McKenna Denson who gave me a call and informed me of Kristy's situation. McKenna and I had a really good conversation today about the events of late that have happened and are happening in her life and she will be our guest in three parts beginning Tuesday, September 25th.

Upcoming Interviews

I am not someone to jump on bandwagons – and I was straight up and direct with McKenna about our time together and she was straight up right back at me with her reasons for doing what she is doing. I was impressed and look forward to hearing about her, her life, and case against the LDS church and Joseph Bishop. That’s Tuesday, September 25th for our three-part interview.

Now, that will take us out to October 16th. As an FYI, on Tuesday, October 30th, 364 days from when we launched Heart of the Matter 2.0 we are going to make a big announcement – one that will mark this ministry and its purpose more than all of our activities combined. So stay tuned. September 25th, October 2 and October 9th for McKenna Denson and then October 30 for an important announcement.

Guest Reflection

I’ve taken some heat for having Bill Allred of 96X Radio from Hell as a guest because, according to my critics, he didn’t bring anything good to the table (with good being defined as really debatable or Christian or whatever). This sort of stuns me as I found the time together beneficial. But I get why some people would have this reaction – it was because Bill was not preaching Jesus, nor was he ridiculing Jesus, and he was essentially just talking about his life and views in general.

At the opening of the show, I explained that I had Bill on to illustrate an approach we can use when we meet people who have “walked from God.” I think that there is value when we step into the minds of people who are very much NOT like us – in fact, that is where I think the real learning and growth occurs because it splays open our hearts and minds and exposes us to different worldviews and ways. To be frank, I don’t think there is anything more boring than a broadcast like Trinity broadcast where all these people get on a stage and compliment themselves because they all see the world in the same way. BLAHHHH. So thank you Bill for taking the time to just be yourself, to share your heart and for all of us to have access to that.

Engagement Through Social Media

On a show about God, it’s important to have and hear from a man who lives without any concern for God at all – don’t cha think? Finally, before we get to the content for the show, take a look at this: (RUN “TALKING TO MORMONS” SPOT HERE)

Well, as some of you know, I recently got my feet wet in the social media circus many of you have been in for years. In so doing, I have gotten involved in FB. Last week I posted the following comment:

PROCLAMATION (out of real need): No epistle in the New Testament was written to you, or me or anyone in this Age. Please stop using it as if it was!!

I posted this because in the days preceding, I watched as dozens of people were taking the New Testament passages and slamming them down as proof texts to condemn those who differed with them. It was insidious, and relentless and if I closed my eyes, I would have believed I was surrounded by scribes and pharisees who were frothing over every jot and tittle possible. Notice I did NOT say that “No epistle in the New Testament is applicable to us today.” All I said was a stated fact based on

Understanding the Controversy Around New Testament Teachings

The words of the writers themselves – that the letters were written to people then and there. This point is REALLY important because if and when we start seeing the New Testament in this way, we will more effectively stop majoring in the minors and begin majoring in the majors of Christian love. Well, the fall out was stupendous as this simple statement created a weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth by the doctrine and tradition police like no other (at least in my short FB life).

I mean there were accusations of sinister intentions, of bullying, or evil, of my being an anti-Christ, of my needing to be humble (because that writer believed he had proved me wrong with the logic that “the epistles were written to believers and because we are believers they were written to us!”) The faith is in serious trouble and I am personally convinced that this view, supported by a proper eschatological stance, that the New Testament was not written to us today, will help alleviate most of the infighting that exists today.

But why don’t people want to receive this simple view? Honest to God, you would have thought I had crucified Jesus myself the way they reacted to the simple suggestion that the Bible was not . . . written to us today. I suggest that this is the result of a heinous position established during the reformation known as Sola Scriptura because not only is the tenet NOT a NT tenet, it is the fountainhead of all the infighting over interpretation, denominationalism, division, dogma, and on out to actual hate and venom people who have seriously embraced it have for those who . . . haven’t.

The Origins of Theological Conflict

We have done shows on why and how Sola Scriptura is not only a fail but a formula for disaster on a number of occasions, so I’m not gonna repeat it all now. But the problem really didn’t start in the 1500’s. Nor did it start with Constantine, or even the early church leaders. The problems all started when God took his apostles from the earth along with His church-bride so that the gates of hell could not prevail against (like it did once He took it away).

God knew that afterward only seekers of Him in spirit and truth would understand Him, and that they rest would spend their lives flailing about in attempts to recreate a brick and mortar religion – which He knew ALL of them would fail – right on out to today. But folks, the Victory has been had, all things have been fulfilled, and people who seek Him will continue forever-more to flow into His eternal kingdom – through all manner of means.

Examining Reformed Theology

So, speaking of Sola Scriptura, our show tonight, will speak to what I believe is a most sinister theology – what is called, Reformed Theology. I embrace all Reformed theologians as brothers and sisters but think their version of God is MORE reprehensible than the Mormon view of God – so take that in your pipe and smoke it.

Apparently there was a recent debate that took place at Apologiastudios, a Reformed-based studio. What makes the debate interesting is that it was a reformed debater named Jeff Durbin (who I have invited on this show but he won’t even respond to my invitations because he knows his stances will be proven foolish) and Dr. James White (who actually came on the show and spent a lot of time with us – where I think a lot of good was accomplished by I don’t think the Calvies agree) and another separated debate was with self-appointed reformed apologist Aaron Shafovaloff (who also turned down an opportunity to be on the show because he’s just mad at me – humph!).

But who were Durbin and White, and then Shafavoloff, debating? A young black LDS man-boy named Kwaku El (who recently turned me down to be on the show because he surreptitiously looked us up, saw a picture of the Man in White – who was LDS and dressed in Temple garments and assumed that it was me and does not want to bring any attention to this program.)

In any case, there was a tag-team debate with the LDS man-boy Kwaku El and then also a single debate with Shafaloff and from what I have been told, Kwaku El did a remarkable job of showing the true insanity of Five Point Reformed Theology (Calvinism). Apparently, Kwaku got Durbin and White and then Shafovaloff to admit that God not only

Examination of Calvinist Doctrine

“wanted the Holocaust to happen” but “gloried” in it. And he also got Dr. White to say that “God predestined sex trafficking in the city of Houston where Kwaku is from.”

A good friend wrote to me, who is really sharp, and said:

“I know Dr. White is a great debater, but the kid made him look absolutely ridiculous when it came to the Calvinist stuff.”

Now, you all know I was LDS for 40 years. And then you know I had a roadside experience where Jesus changed me forever. Some of you may also know that after 15 years as a regenerated Christian I stepped away from the non-biblical insanity of American Evangelicalism (and most of what it purports as truth) and am now simply a lover of God and lover of Man. That being said, I would in a heart-beat accept the Mormon views on the character of God ANYDAY then a Five Point Calvinist.

It is sort of ironic that a young, black LDS kid named Kwaku El could set these five-point boys straight. To me, God is moving out and away from these dinosaurs of dogma who promote a demon God and is allowing His light of victorious love to crush their stances down to the dust. Nevertheless, as the world is opening up to more and more of Him (without the fugliness of man-made indoctrination) those indoctrinated with the traditions of men are putting up a tremendous resistance.

New Testament Passages

Instead of just talking about them, I want to explain one set of passages from the New Testament that Calvinists love to use to prove their gross doctrine of predestination. When read without discernment, they can be somewhat convincing. So let's go to the first chapter of Ephesians. Ready?

In Ephesians chapter 1 we come upon some really interesting verses about what God was doing among the Saints and the Apostles who were over them. For many non-Reformed Christians, these passages are some of the most troubling in the New Testament – especially when it comes to the idea of free will. I want to take a minute to read through it with you because I think its meaning is clear as day.

Ephesians 1:1-4

Let’s start at verse one of Ephesians one and learn together. Ready?

Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

This is a standard type opener for Paul but we can’t help notice that Paul DOES distinguish here between God and Jesus Christ. Not saying Jesus wasn’t God with us, but in most of his epistles Paul makes a clear distinction between God and His Son, Jesus Christ. Why, let’s look at verse 2

2 Grace be to you, (He writes) and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

I’ll say no more. Paul says enough. Verse 3

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

At verse three we learn that it is God the Father who blesses with all spiritual blessings… but we also come upon something important here – our first “us” in the first nine verses. Now, when we read this “us,” most think “Why that is speaking to me, a believer.” And in many ways, the passage might be speaking to us in terms of spiritual principles! After all, God and the father of our Lord IS the one who blesses us with all spiritual blessings, right?

But here, the “us” is not speaking to us today and listen – NOR was it speaking to the gentile believers at Ephesus THEN! Huh? What? It’s true. When Paul writes “us” here he is speaking either about the Apostles themselves and/or He is speaking about the Jews who converted to Christ. To make it simple, I think the US he speaks to means only the Apostles. So every time we read “US” in the next several verses Paul is distinguishing the audience. Stay with me. You’ll see it in a minute. And when you do it will make you more capable of understanding these passages than any Calvinist I have ever met.

Okay so he goes on at verse 4 and says, speaking of God

4 According as he (God the Father) hath chosen US (here’s the second “US”) in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy

Ephesians and the Apostles

and without blame before him in love:

Again, most people read this and think the “us” and the “we” are referring to themselves, or to the whole church. But they are not. “God has chosen in Himself before the foundation of the world the Apostles that they should be holy and without blame before Him in Love.

Predestination and Purpose

Verse 5

5 Having predestinated us (the Apostles) unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us (the Apostles) accepted in the beloved. 7 In whom we (the Apostles) have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; 8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

Okay, you got all that? Again, it is Paul who mentions the “us” / “we” crowd in these last six verses six times!

God the Father has elected and chosen and predestined some of them to receive the redemption of Jesus blood.

When and Why? (verse 10)

10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Verse ten tells us the reason why God had chosen and predestined the “us's and we's” (the Apostles that Paul is referring to) that…

“in the dispensation of the fulness of times he (God) might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him”

Oikonomia and the Fulness of Times

The dispensation of the fullness of times is a phrase that has been misread and misinterpreted for ages by Christians and religious groups as most of them think that that dispensation (described as being the “fulness of times”) spoke to the day Jesus was born all the way out to today.

Not so.

The word translated “dispensation” here is “oikonomia,” a word you are familiar with if you follow our CAMPUS teachings as it is the same word as our word “economy.”

It speaks to “the master plan” anciently (and even today) established for the management of a household (by a servant or Lord) or for a period of time or age by God.

In other words, it’s an age-management approach used by any sort of business: and here it means the “oikonomia” when God established all that was necessary to put His plan in place.

Here Paul speaks to the OIKONOMIA of the FULLNESS of TIMES – a period when the consummation of all preceding ages came together and culminated (hence the fulness of times) into one place where the new oikonomia can launch forth – in this case, to the waiting world by the finished work of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

What did God intend to do in this period called the Dispensation of the Fullness of times? The next line tells us.

“That he might gather together in one all things which are in heaven and which are on earth… in Him.”

All heavenly inhabitants and earthly into one common denominator (hence the reason I detest denominationalism) into Himself.

That is the Victory Christ has had – already – where He HAS gathered together in one all things that are in heaven and in earth – into Himself.

We aren’t waiting for this to happen. Jesus isn’t waiting to have the victory. He has had it – and it all happened in the dispensation of the fullness of times – that age then.

In Paul’s day the new oikonomia had not yet been fully established. It would be gathered fully into one denominator when that age wrapped up – and it was an age where God had predestined (from the foundation of the world) the participants who were to help set the oikonomia up – meaning the Apostles.

Read the next verses with me where Paul continues and says, speaking of God:

11 In whom also we (the apostles) have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: 12 That we (the Apostles) should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

Got all that, whether you agree with my assessment of it or not, do you get what

Apostles and Believers in Ephesians

I believe it is saying? At this point, however, Paul makes a shift. He has been talking about us and we, but listen to what he says in the next verse:

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

In verses 4 through 12, Paul is speaking of Himself and the other Apostles with the words “US and WE”. He clearly explains that they were predestined from the foundation of the world to do what they were doing in that, “the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times.” But in verse 13, he shifts to another group – the “ye’s” and the “yours” – those who were either not apostles – perhaps these were only the Gentiles in that day, who Paul now refers to as ye (instead of us and we,) and says:

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

And then he brings BOTH groups together and adds

14 Which (the Holy Spirit of Promise) is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

In the past five minutes I have, from the scriptures, proven that when a Reformed believer appeals to Ephesians one to support the false doctrine of universal predestination they have misinterpreted the words therein.

Personal Reflections

Okay, one more observation before we wrap the show up. As I have lived my life, experiencing formal education, organized sports, community clubs, interpersonal relationships, institutional religions, occupational associations, seven years hosting a live television call-in show and of late, some open involvement with social media, I have come to see first-hand that I have a tendency to make some people really angry at me, even hateful, with some winding up thinking the worst about me and my person at the end of it all.

Because “the unexamined life is not worth living,” and because I insist on seeing life for what it really is, I must make a confession – I am the common denominator in the hatred – and therefore I must realize that the animus toward me is in most cases related to me – who I am, how I say and do things, and the way I represent myself. Looking deeper, I can see that the anger directed toward me is especially true when I engage in events that are based on long-held traditions, that have an established culture, or long-standing set of rules of engagement enforced by some sort of authoritative source.

Harmony and Conflict

The more “free or unencumbered a situation is (like a party, an open free-for-all sport like water volleyball, or just sitting and conversing), the more I am loved and appreciated. But whenever I get involved with things that have a built-in culture, system of operation, or set of standards and rules that demand allegiance – especially to those who are placed in positions of authority to demand compliance, the more the animus toward my person increases.

As a means to survive on the most simplistic of terms, most people (myself included for years on end) size these facts up by simply suggesting that I am rebellious and incapable of obeying the rules. Admittedly, this seems like the best overall summary of what drives me. But from my honest of hearts, with God as my witness, I am not rebellious for rebellion's sake. I like harmony, I love peace and things running smoothly – and so I have to look deep into my heart and examine if I can understand why I have this effect on a large segment of society, especially in the area of Christianity.

Self-Examination

In my early morning search for insights, I decided to ignore the obvious approaches to personal discernment that I have taken many times in the past – you know, that I was raised improperly, or that I am defective, or of the devil – and decided, relative to the Christian faith and the anger and animus I draw out of so many people who claim to embrace it, that I would begin by asking: What Is Christianity? I figured if I could discover the answer to this, I might be able to see why I am constantly making people who are Christian angry with me.

The Relationship of Christianity

The idea came to me that Christianity, as we think of it, is more than a single thing – and I am going to break it down into four interrelated relationships:

Relationship of God to Man

What is Christianity in relationship of GOD down to MAN? I would answer this in the following way: That “God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” From God to us, this is Christianity in summary. And on this point, I don’t seem to have too much trouble with others. If someone is a Christian, I typically do not make them angry regarding this first part of Christianity defined.

1

God and Man

“That God so loved the World he gave his only Begotten son that whoso Believes in Him should not Perish but have everlasting Life.”

Man receiving or accepting the fact that God so loved us that He gave us His Son, and doing this in faith, and then choosing to allow Him to be Lord of our lives. Man receiving or accepting the fact that God so loved us that He gave us His Son, and doing this in faith, and then choosing to allow Him to be Lord of our lives.

2

Now, things can get a little argumentative on point 2 because men will insist on certain views to be accepted regarding this part – like it is God who gets us to believe and receive and the like.

But generally speaking, the Man to God part is understood as being a relationship of faith and surrender. So far so good for me overall – with a couple of exceptions. Not too much animus for my person in relationship to these vertical elements in defining Christianity.

But we have two parts to go and the third is “What Christianity is from Man to others?”

Relationship of Man to Others

Generally speaking, most will define this as love, but the rub comes in what that “love” looks like – and in this area I often get believers really angry with me because what I believe is Christian, agape Godly love looks very different from what some of my spiritual siblings think Christian love is.

In this things get dicey and I have discovered that in this portion of defining Christianity there are marked differences as some believe it is loving to tell people they are going to hell or that they are of Satan and others think Christian love means allowing individuals to live as they choose and to let God manage them and their life choices.

Like differences between liberal and conservative politics, I’m not sure these gaps will ever be bridged while this world spins because most street preachers really truly believe it IS loving to tell homosexuals that God is very angry with them while I truly believe that God loves them as they are and that is why He sent his Son.

Because there will always be differences in the way a believer's Christianity reaches over to others.

Understanding Christianity

and these difference are not just me against the world, I cannot say that I am personally hated because I side with one side or the other – I might be hated for the view, but views and views, we all have them, and there will always be disagreement over application in the faith. What I am trying to say is I cannot change people getting angry at me here for taking a position. I could change positions and people from my former allegiance will continue to get angry with me. All Christians agree that our duty to others is to love – the disagreement comes in how all Christians define and live out this love – and so I have to dig deeper into what Christianity is in order to discover why I get so many angry with almost anything that I say or do. I REALLY do want to understand.

Perspectives on Christianity

This leads me to a fourth and final perspective of asking, What is Christianity? We have discussed what Christianity is in the view of from God to Us. And then from Us to God. And we have then looked at what Christianity is from US to OTHERS. Is there any other perspective to consider in our definition of the faith? I would suggest that there is and it would be What is Christianity from other Christians to the Individual or to the Self.

When I arrived at this part of the definition of Christianity, the light came on – on a number of very important and salient points were revealed. In points one there is an almost universal agreement in the definition of Christianity– God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son (although the Calvinists redefine world as the elect) – but whatever. In point two, there is a great deal of agreement in the Definition of Christianity – that we respond to His gift in faith and allegiance (except, again the Calvinist tell us we cannot respond in faith – but whatever). In the third way we define Christianity – that as believers who have faith in His Son we are to love (but there is a growing division here as love is defined differently by all believers) but when we come to the fourth way we define what Christianity is, I’ve discovered why so many good believers and followers of Jesus hate me! They hate what I am personally as a Christian, which can also be restated as they hate what I am as an individual.

The Challenge of Individual Identity

In their minds, Christianity should be defined not just as

• God so loved the world that he gave us His only Human Son, and
• That we respond by placing our faith and allegiance in Him, and
• That we are to love others

But they add that Christianity (or in this case a Christian) is defined by SOMETHING OTHER, something more! And in this I realize the root of Christian animus against my person and the things I say and do. I am NOT personally or individually what they believe a CHRISTIAN is or should be! I mean, we agree on one, and two and three too – so the only reason I get heated hate is because of four.

So, what is an INDIVIDUAL CHRISTIAN and how are they defined by other Christians because apparently, to many believers, points one two and three are not enough! So what is the answer to this fourth part of defining what Christianity is? Some will say that other Christians must define individual Christians by their theological principles and doctrines. I do not agree and to those who think this matters they get angry. To me Christianity is NOT a theology. It contains and carries some theologies and doctrines, but Christianity is NOT theological when it comes to the

Christianity as an Art

Individual in question. Yes, questions 1, 2, and even 3 may be theologically driven, but we agree on those essentials. It’s the extra theology they want included. Some define Christianity by science or lack thereof. In other words, if my science or scientific views do not concur with theirs, then science (or lack thereof) defines my Christianity – and if my science is off, then so is my acceptance. Not so, in my estimation. Christianity might include some scientific views (or not) but an individual can or cannot be a scientist and this does not define their Christianity.

Some make Christianity a philosophy – and if others don’t, this makes them angry. But Christianity is not a philosophy, though it might contain philosophical conditions and logic. Thus far Christian believers who think CHRISTIANITY is theological, or scientific, or Philosophical, when they discover that I will not allow such things to define my faith personally, get really mad at me. So much so they malign and attack me, their brother who too believes 1, 2, and 3! There are those who make Christianity an occupation, or a vocation, or a club, or a system for living certain principles. Most of these include a number of laws that they consider Christian, and of course when an individual like me rejects the occupational and vocational applications, or will not join the club, or follow the rules of the system, hatred and anger erupt.

Expression through Faith

But I maintain that when believers look at individual Christians, we cannot say that the “Christianity” in the individual is theological, scientific, philosophical, occupational, or systematic. And finally, I realize the core reason I am hated by those who see individual Christianity as such – I believe Christianity, at the individual level, is best described… as an art.

And when we speak of a true artist, and the artistic temperament, and what traits are in an artist, I think we can see some tremendous parallels to the traits that are in the most dedicated, and controversial Christians. In other words, the traits that are in true artists are traits God would love in His children to aim toward Him. What are these traits? The truest of artists are first and foremost fearlessly committed to truth, maintain personal integrity over all things, possess untainted sincerity (which speaks directly to the heart) and have a sold-out, relentless commitment to their craft (which, in the Christian, would be a sold-out, relentless commitment to Christ) – no matter what others say or suggest.

The Nature of Christian Artists

This true passion, which is not an image of passion but passion itself, runs so deeply that a non-artistic world cannot fathom their refusals to conform or to please men – hence the animus, the casting out, the constant ridicule. Like secular artists, the Christian artist would challenge and question what has been, and would refuse to replicate a style or mode just because that has always been the standard. Christian artists explore new ways to express themselves, their faith and love, they would welcome dialogue and deconstruction while welcoming all views – not just from those who side with them.

When we speak of Christian Artists or any true artist for that matter, it goes without saying that I am not talking about entitled, elitist pretentious men and women who think that only those who are artists have a say in the world. I am striving to depict artists who follow the ways of the Truest Creator, God – and His ways in engaging with the world around Him.

Like any true Christian, Jesus loved. And He walked by faith in His father and trusted that His father sent Him into the world to save the world. But He was also unwilling to compromise on His craft – telling people that He was, in fact, the way, the truth, and the life. That no man would come to His father unless it was by Him. The established traditions He tore apart in many ways when they interfered with the New Covenant. He spoke the truth, even when it caused many to hate Him and get very angry. In so doing, He was not being rebellious, He was like an artist whose views were not going to change no matter how many people said they should.

And for these same reasons corporations, and religious institutions, and totalitarian regimes kill or cast out the artist-types first; Christians who see the faith as an art.

The Standalone Artist

Theological or philosophical cannot stand the presence of someone . . . who stands alone, come hell or high water. The truest of artists, who from total sincerity, and complete honesty and integrity, who want to express openly who they are and how they see things, will stand alone. This frustrates individual Christians who demand that other individuals be theological, traditional, scientific, philosophical, or corporate Christian individuals.

Christianity as an Art

You see, to admit that Christianity is, in addition to points 1, 2 and 3, best described and lived as an art, is to open up the faith to an individual, and therefore a subjective expression of the faith. This typically will not do in a world that thrives on group-think, collectivism, or demands for an objective approach to Jesus.

Following the Creator

Follow THE Creators footsteps by the spirit and you will be hated. Just don’t ever hate back.

Speak the truth, and speak it clearly, but love your audience. They may hate you for it, but they hated Him first.

In closing, we will not be interviewing McKenna Denson in two weeks. We pray for her and the injustices she has experienced.

See you next week here on HOTM!